Adding a PTO hour meter

DeepWoods

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I decided to add an hour meter to keep track of the PTO hours so I can do a better job of maintaining my snowblower. It has a 4 hour interval for chain lubrication, and a 20 hour interval for greasing the drive shaft, and u joints. I already keep a maintenance journal to record all operating hours, but don’t run the PTO the entire time the engine is running so actual PTO hours are always a guess as to actual time running. Adding a switch to the PTO engagement lever will allow me to power the hour meter only while the PTO is running.

So far it has been a very easy to fashion a mounting bracket to hold the switch, and there is already a 12v aux. source at the rear of the seat area that I can use to power the hour meter. So with a small amount of wiring, and a few terminals, it will be complete. I have a 12v hour meter on order from Amazon, so as soon as I receive it I will install it in the plastic shroud around the levers that control the PTO engagement and transmission speed selector. Here is a picture of my progress so far
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Nice, makes me want to get off my butt, and install a hubometer on my gooseneck.
 

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To each their own I reckon, but I would've just used the hour meter on the tractor.
How do you do that when the PTO only operates some of the time?

Personally I think the OP's solution is right on! Anything else is just a best guess...

Natually, I live most of my life in the best guess mode...so I kind of get what you are saying...imnukensc...LOL
 

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How do you do that when the PTO only operates some of the time?

Personally I think the OP's solution is right on! Anything else is just a best guess...

Natually, I live most of my life in the best guess mode...so I kind of get what you are saying...imnukensc...LOL
I don't think it's worth the trouble to put in a separate meter for PTO hours. If you grease it/oil it early or more often than required, then it doesn't matter. 'Course, I did my 50 hour service at 48 hours. :)
 
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DustyRusty

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I understand what you are wanting to do, but I see it as overkill. I oil the chain with chain bar oil after every storm or before every storm, depending on my own schedule. I grease the driveshaft cross shafts at the beginning of the season and using my old snowblower for 17 or 18 years, I never had a cross-bearing (some call them universals) go bad. I have been thinking a lot about the chain, since that does a lot of work, and have started thinking about going to a motorcycle chain lubricant since those chains see a lot more use than a snowblower chain. When I remove the quick hitch, I will clean and service the bearings and have never had to replace one. If I were using my snowblower in a commercial setting, I could see having the hour meter. If you get very frequent snowfalls, then it might make sense for you.
 

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I get the comments that say it is overkill, but it comes from 30 years of doing building and equipment maintenance for a major retailer. Most of the maintenance that I did was on lift equipment, and all of them had hour meters on them for routine maintenance. Just a habit now in my retirement years.

Also I find as I am getting older, my memory sucks! It has gotten so bad that it is taking me a lot longer to do just the simple tasks, and I can use all the help I can get. You younger guys have it easy, but your time will come.😉
 
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Well, my hour meter was delivered yesterday, so I spent the morning finishing the install. I didn’t get to locate the meter where I wanted to due to the inner fender having a profile that wouldn’t allow it, but it is still readily viewable from the sitting position. After cutting a hole, and a few more wire connections, it’s done. For the $15 investment and a couple hours of my time, I think it will be worth it. Oh, and I was able to move the warning sticker from the counsel to the window. Any, here are a couple pictures of the install.
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OK, I gotta ask, what's the white 'magnetic switch' with the red& white wires for ?
If that V3 leaf switch is actually 'Made in USA', it'll outlive both of us ! Used 100s of them,decades ago,never ,ever had one fail in the steel mill.
 

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OK, I gotta ask, what's the white 'magnetic switch' with the red& white wires for ?
If that V3 leaf switch is actually 'Made in USA', it'll outlive both of us ! Used 100s of them,decades ago,never ,ever had one fail in the steel mill.
Short answer is, it is my seat switch. Long answer is here:

 

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nice, do you know if it's the GREAT 'reed' switch inside or an 'open mechanical' one ?
Reed will never ,ever fail providing current kept low through it.
Mechanical ones might 'gorf' up if case isn't well sealed.
 

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I know it is about 30 years old, as it came from the alarm system I installed in a previous residence. Just something left over that I could never throw away being the pack rat that I am. Figured I could eventually find a use for it. Pretty sure it is a reed switch, if my memory serves me right.
 

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Regarding chain, a good, sealed oring motorcycle chain never needs lubrication and will probably out last the tractor.
Nice install of the Hobbs meter and switch.
 

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re: switch type... easy test.. draw magnet close to it.
THUNK...it's mechincal.
tink..it's a reed

best mechanical ones were by ADEMCO, form C style(SPDT) no way a thief could bypass them...
best reeds were on Ann Arbor terminals, each key was a vertical reed switch, key cap had a circular magnet
 

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re: switch type... easy test.. draw magnet close to it.
THUNK...it's mechincal.
tink..it's a reed

best mechanical ones were by ADEMCO, form C style(SPDT) no way a thief could bypass them...
best reeds were on Ann Arbor terminals, each key was a vertical reed switch, key cap had a circular magnet
y'all me Alarm Device Manufacturing Company? They made great bungler alarm products. I loved their wide gap magnetic switches that took care of doors that you couldn't keep from rattling in a wind.
 

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YES... my house is still hardwired with them ! Have a couple ADEMCO panels here, must be 50 years old..
gotta be in box with a 'timeclock' unit from local steel mill.....25 cycle...so predate 1950sish.
 

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Details on where you got it/price?

I only lubricate the Ujoints on stuff before putting it on. Where's the grease going to go? It's mostly sealed up and not gonna wash away.
 

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Details on where you got it/price?

I only lubricate the Ujoints on stuff before putting it on. Where's the grease going to go? It's mostly sealed up and not gonna wash away.
Here is a link to Amazon


Turns out after rereading my operating manual for the blower, the Ujoints only need grease every 40 hours, or once a season if used less than 40 hours. Guess I’ve been over greasing the drive shaft since new 😳
 

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My forkift doesn't have any grease in the double Carden joints,hasn't for years. Come to think of it, there's NO needle bearings in one either...'good' 3/8" slop...
 

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Turns out after rereading my operating manual for the blower, the Ujoints only need grease every 40 hours, or once a season if used less than 40 hours. Guess I’ve been over greasing the drive shaft since new 😳
Nothing wrong with over greasing, lots wrong with under greasing...You have done well so far.
 
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