No, one time appellation. It's kind of like a spray wax coating, a bit thick but soft enough you can get bolts out with scrapping black undercoating off.
Floor Pan Rust
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xrocketengineer
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No, I bought fuel at the usual Shell station on a 5 gal. jug. When I started pumping it into the tractor, the clear pump hose was showing red fuel. At the time it seem to have a faint gasoline smell. I think that the color fooled me into thinking of the red gasoline of the old days. I had not seen red Diesel before. I pumped somewhere between a cup and a quart and I stopped. I went elsewhere and bought another jug and the Diesel had the usual clear/yellowish color . The tractor ran fine afterwards. The State inspector told me that he thinks that the delivery truck had probably delivered off road Diesel prior to the delivery to the Shell station. All the sampling testing was good.
I gotcha. I have off road fuel available just up the road from my house (past it) and I usually get fuel there, but sometimes Ill get highway fuel at a station that is on my way home just because it’s convenient. When you pour it it comes out red due to the dye in the can. The filters will stay stained red after running off road through them.
OrangeKrush
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Use it up, it's fine.. that's what I run in mine. Just dyed for off road and farm equipment.. non taxed and with the dye officials can see if you're cheating the system. Doubt they care these days!
fried1765
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Any rubber mat on a tractor floor/deck, spells .... actual, or impending RUST!That moisture will stay there a looong time if outside but I think almost indefinitely if inside with that mat down.
BigG
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The fines for running red dye on the highway are pretty steep. A quick Google check and I find $10 per gallon up to $1000. I have seen reports/stories of even higher fines.
I can't even remove the mat from my tractor. It is held down by the cab. The same with my 2004 BX22, but when I removed the cab and the floor to repair the hydro cooling fan I saw no rust, and that tractor spent its entire life outside. That tractor had paint, not powder coating, and I believe that is the difference.
fried1765
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In my opinion, in many situations, paint is better than powder coating.
High quality powder coating is great, but much powder coating is not high quality.
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In MA and CT, the red-dyed fuel is for home heating oil, and off-road fuel is green. Taxed fuel is clear. This has been the way it has been for many years. Gasoline is clear, and I don't know what the color is for off-road gasoline. I have always used home heating oil in my Kubota, and never had a problem. The old formulas were high sulfur, but today, all fuels are now low sulfur.
Brings back bad memories refilling my diesel Z71 truck at a detroit gas station and seeing milky coloured diesel fuel...
I guess if you can afford a diesel audi SUV you can afford $12K to drain the tank and replace your fuel filters
A friend stopped at a BP station on his way out West and filled up using the green nozzle that in the East is diesel fuel. It turned out to be gasoline, and the Ford dealership was closed. He called me and asked what to do. I suggested that he buy enough plastic fuel containers to capture the gasoline and drain the tank. He then refilled it with diesel fuel, and change all the filters. I explained how to bleed the injectors by loosening them and to crank the engine in spurts till he saw diesel fuel coming out. He did as I suggested, and was back on the road the next day with 40 gallons of gasoline in the back of his pickup. He learned that in Britain that the green nozzle is gasoline, and since it was a British company (British Petroleum) that they did the same thing in the states. Where he lives in the East, there are very few BP stations. I was just looking for some pictures only to find that the EU (European Union) has come up with a standard for color-coding the nozzles. We in North America should do the same, and it should be universal with the rest of the world. The station that I go to in Massachusetts, the green nozzle is the diesel, and yellow is non-taxed Kerosene.
OrangeKrush
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I get mine from the COOP farm shop, where most farmers go to fuel their tanks and it's red dye and probably the same they use for heat. I wonder why they would use two different colors.. two different grades of fuel?
when i saw the post title I was expecting a lot worse
i worked on an electric vehicle yesterday (what I do for a living now), and you haven't seen rust til you've worked on something like that. Entire frame rusted away. There is no fixing it, aside from replacing the frame which might happen if the customer agrees to it. I'd like to see him get a different vehicle but we will see. Ultimately it's not my money.
Pretty typical for them to have to get kubota involved. Rust is an issue that is not specifically addressed in the warranty statement. Iv'e seen them deny and I've seen them approve rust repairs but every single time they had to send service reps out. Remember a territory service rep is one person that covers up to hundreds of dealers, each with many issues to deal with--and they also do MUCH more than just stuff like this. I was offered a position doing just this (with deere) and I said heck no. Pays nice but what good is pay when you ain't never home?
i worked on an electric vehicle yesterday (what I do for a living now), and you haven't seen rust til you've worked on something like that. Entire frame rusted away. There is no fixing it, aside from replacing the frame which might happen if the customer agrees to it. I'd like to see him get a different vehicle but we will see. Ultimately it's not my money.
Pretty typical for them to have to get kubota involved. Rust is an issue that is not specifically addressed in the warranty statement. Iv'e seen them deny and I've seen them approve rust repairs but every single time they had to send service reps out. Remember a territory service rep is one person that covers up to hundreds of dealers, each with many issues to deal with--and they also do MUCH more than just stuff like this. I was offered a position doing just this (with deere) and I said heck no. Pays nice but what good is pay when you ain't never home?
BigG
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xrocketengineer
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Well, this time I was impressed by my dealer. They picked up the tractor Monday in the morning and delivered it in the afternoon with the new floor and all new bolts at no cost to me. The only issue is how am I going to know where the parking brake pedal is, since there is no decal anymore! 
As fried1765 said, I also used Herculiner. I had no mat but the paint on the floor was pretty worn, to bare metal, in too many places. I was skeptical at first but its been almost a year's worth of tractor use and it has held up great.
xrocketengineer
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I went wit a coat of fluid film on all the floor and another coat on the underside of the mat. Next time I take MMM off, in about 10hours, I will coat the underside of the floor too and the mower deck also.
fried1765
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Fluid Film is not a bad idea, but Herculiner (without reinstalling the mat) is a permanent fix, and not a gooey fix.
With Herculiner, there can be no trapped water.
Any accumulated water just evaporates when the sun hits it.
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