Picture of your tractor on your trailer

[JimsF]

Nope type of trailer does not make a difference. Take a look at this story video. Weigh Safe

Thanks, good video

 

[Dennis.D]

Sweet rig!

Never tried the wheel strap method. Still running 3/8” Grade 43 chains through shackle on drawbar on back and loader tube on front. Do you find the wheel strap method easier and/or better than chains and load binders?

Also, it looks like you’re using auto type straps on the fronts so that’s pretty straightforward.

What you doing for the rear? Looks like a standard strap that you’ve woven/wrapped around the wheel somehow. Have you found that to be reliable to not slip?

I tow a lot of cars and wheel straps are becoming the standard. The front are wheel straps for autos and the rear are just a strap wrapped around the back of the tire and crossed on the front. I do have to use 2 ratchets 1 won't tighten both ends of the strap. You can actually see the tire being squatted when you tighten them. OCD is part of the reason I started doing this. I didn't want to scratch my tractor. LOL

 

[ayak]

1100# tongue weight, total trailer and cargo here is 8100#.

 

[esmd]

BX2200 on my 7'x14' landscape trailer. Just makes it with a 48" bushhog.

 

[Crash277]

2021 Silverado with the 3.0L duramax, 2012/2013 18’ 7000lb car hauler. Did the math, with that set up I’m sitting at around 6-6200lbs. Max tow rating is 9300lbs. Side note: I will never again own a truck that doesn’t have tow mirrors. They are great!

 

[Goz63]

My first run on the trailer.

 

[NHSleddog]

Love the long bed, she tows like a dream.

 

[PaulL]

Going to mow the roadside a couple kms down the road.

I'm sure some will say that's not enough trailer. But by NZ standards it's a big trailer.....

 

[Toyman]

Pic of my M4050 getting delivered to my farm.

 

[SGT13]

My right shoulder rotator cuff is in bad shape. It makes removing, installing, and putting away those ramps quite difficult.

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I have the same issue. Already looking at ramping mods with spring assist to keep from having to stow ramps.

 

[dan_m]

2021 Silverado with the 3.0L duramax, 2012/2013 18’ 7000lb car hauler. Did the math, with that set up I’m sitting at around 6-6200lbs. Max tow rating is 9300lbs. Side note: I will never again own a truck that doesn’t have tow mirrors. They are great!

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I agree on tow mirrors! My F150 has the optional tow mirrors (not standard on tow or max tow packages) that telescope out 2" - these are basically the same mirror on the superduty's.

 

[dirtydeed]

I have the same issue. Already looking at ramping mods with spring assist to keep from having to stow ramps.

Not sure if this helps... in the pic below, I circled the "Elevator Lift Springs" I installed almost 15 years ago. It still works great. I used to have a 6 foot gate that was VERY heavy. After my double bi-lateral hernia surgery I knew I needed to do something with the gate. I had installed two of the elevator lift springs. It worked great. You could lift the gate with a finger.

Since then, I cut the gates back down to 4 feet and only use one spring to handle the entire gate. I've seen the other types that mount on the top rail of the trailer...but they look like they would be in the way when loading over the sides of a landscape trailer.

Their website can be found here: https://www.elegator.com/features4.html

 

[S-G-R]

 

[ncridgerunner]

Great pics and discussion! I'm always amazed by the knowledge and creativity of this group.

When I trailer my BX23 TLB I use four chains (two in front and two in back) to secure the 4 corners to the trailer.

I have a friend who says a long chain in the front and rear that goes through the frame or attachment point and attaches on both sides of the trailer is sufficient to meet safety standards .

What are the requirements for a less than 3k pound tractor?

 

[BigG]

Great pics and discussion! I'm always amazed by the knowledge and creativity of this group.

When I trailer my BX23 TLB I use four chains (two in front and two in back) to secure the 4 corners to the trailer.

I have a friend who says a long chain in the front and rear that goes through the frame or attachment point and attaches on both sides of the trailer is sufficient to meet safety standards .

What are the requirements for a less than 3k pound tractor?

Your friend is correct as long as the chain is rated (WLL) high enough. So a 1/4 inch grade 70 transport chain is enough.

 

[dan_m]

Your friend is correct as long as the chain is rated (WLL) high enough. So a 1/4 inch grade 70 transport chain is enough.

Your friend is correct as long as the chain is rated (WLL) high enough. So a 1/4 inch grade 70 transport chain is enough.

As i understand, many states follow the federal regulations, at least for commercial transportation. And that's the rules i follow. I've not researched non commercial regulations even though I'm not commercial.

As i understand it, if the securement chain/strap crosses the cargo and attaches to trailer twice, you count the full WLL of that chain/strap. If it attaches to the cargo, you count half the WLL. The total containment of all straps should be at least 1/2 the weight of the cargo. In addition, there are a minimum number of chains/straps required based on length and weight. In addition, you need to secure all buckets, extensions, etc for equipment. So a tractor with FEL needs at least 3 anchor (if crossing). 2 for tractor, one for FEL.

For me, when I haul my bx2380 with belly mower, i currently use 2 x 1667 WLL straps (3334 total WLL), well more than half weight of tractor and mower).

Commercial regulations-

Cargo Securement Rules | FMCSA

On September 27, 2002, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) published new cargo securement rules. Motor carriers operating in interstate commerce must comply with the new requirements beginning January 1, 2004. The new rules are based on the North American Cargo Securement...

www.fmcsa.dot.gov

 

[ncridgerunner]

As i understand, many states follow the federal regulations, at least for commercial transportation. And that's the rules i follow. I've not researched non commercial regulations even though I'm not commercial.

As i understand it, if the securement chain/strap crosses the cargo and attaches to trailer twice, you count the full WLL of that chain/strap. If it attaches to the cargo, you count half the WLL. The total containment of all straps should be at least 1/2 the weight of the cargo. In addition, there are a minimum number of chains/straps required based on length and weight. In addition, you need to secure all buckets, extensions, etc for equipment. So a tractor with FEL needs at least 3 anchor (if crossing). 2 for tractor, one for FEL.

For me, when I haul my bx2380 with belly mower, i currently use 2 x 1667 WLL straps (3334 total WLL), well more than half weight of tractor and mower).

Commercial regulations-

Cargo Securement Rules | FMCSA

On September 27, 2002, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) published new cargo securement rules. Motor carriers operating in interstate commerce must comply with the new requirements beginning January 1, 2004. The new rules are based on the North American Cargo Securement...

www.fmcsa.dot.gov

Interesting info. I previously looked at the DOT regs online and they talk about weight and length determining the number of tethers. It sounds like my machine requires 4 tethers. Not sure if a long chain crossing the load and secured on both sides of the trailer meets the criteria.

Then again reading the governmentese of these regs is almost as difficult as reading a cell phone bill.....

 

[dan_m]

Interesting info. I previously looked at the DOT regs online and they talk about weight and length determining the number of tethers. It sounds like my machine requires 4 tethers. Not sure if a long chain crossing the load and secured on both sides of the trailer meets the criteria.


Then again reading the governmentese of these regs is almost as difficult as reading a cell phone bill.....

There are a few youtube videos where the youtuber goes over the specs with a state trooper. One is Tractor time with Tim with Indiana State Trooper.

From my understanding you need 2 chains/straps for all equipment for 1st 10' length then 1 additional chain/strap for each other 10 feet (or fraction of 10 feet). Plus if you have a FEL, you need one for the FEL (If you notice excavator haulers always strap down the bucket in addition to the excavator itself. If you cross the cargo, you count the WLL of that chain/strap, if you go from trailer to equipment, you count half the WLL of the chain strap. Total of all WLL must be at least 1/2 weight of cargo.

15' tractor with FEL needs 4 cross straps - 2 for 10' tractor, 1 for extra 10' + one for Loader.

Basically a 5500 lb cross chain is the same as 2x 5500 lb chair securing each side of the equipment.

I could be wrong, but that's my understanding.

Dan

 

[ncridgerunner]

There are a few youtube videos where the youtuber goes over the specs with a state trooper. One is Tractor time with Tim with Indiana State Trooper.

From my understanding you need 2 chains/straps for all equipment for 1st 10' length then 1 additional chain/strap for each other 10 feet (or fraction of 10 feet). Plus if you have a FEL, you need one for the FEL (If you notice excavator haulers always strap down the bucket in addition to the excavator itself. If you cross the cargo, you count the WLL of that chain/strap, if you go from trailer to equipment, you count half the WLL of the chain strap. Total of all WLL must be at least 1/2 weight of cargo.

15' tractor with FEL needs 4 cross straps - 2 for 10' tractor, 1 for extra 10' + one for Loader.

Basically a 5500 lb cross chain is the same as 2x 5500 lb chair securing each side of the equipment.

I could be wrong, but that's my understanding.

Dan

Thanks for your input. The Indiana Trooper was very informative. I recommend this to others who have questions. There is another Youtube interview that talks about equipment over 10k pounds that is interesting too.

I'm doing more than I need for my little tractor but that is better than being out of compliance in the event of an incident.

 

[dan_m]

Thanks for your input. The Indiana Trooper was very informative. I recommend this to others who have questions. There is another Youtube interview that talks about equipment over 10k pounds that is interesting too.

I'm doing more than I need for my little tractor but that is better than being out of compliance in the event of an incident.

I totally agree. Especially considering the less than stellar driving habits of some...

Dan