L3901 and L3301

[BotaDriver]

Are you one of them? I'd love to hear from someone with actual experience as to why the tier 4 systems are inherently flawed/inferior/crap.

Anyone that I've heard from or talked to that actually are running these systems don't seem to share the opinion that it's something specifically to avoid.

The issue isn't with the regen itself. The issue is a few years from now when the DPF fails, your tractor is worth ~$12k, and suddenly you must spend $2k or more on it that serves ZERO purpose other than to put a smile on the bureaucrats in DC.

 

[CaveCreekRay]

That is when I hope 'Murican or Canuck engineering ingenuity will come up with and aftermarket fix to R&R the regen equip to either restore it or allow it to be removed for good.

Its not like the owners have any recurring emissions testing obligations. As I understand it, the equipment is only required for sale.

(Frank... Here's your opportunity!!!)

Ray

 

[thedevilyoulove]

After around 75 hrs on mine, I've gone through a few regen cycles now. What I'm finding by the whole system is that it's so automated that any fear talk about tier 4 or regen systems is a whole lot about nothing.

I think the folks who would have you believe that the regen system is a massive inconvenience, either are trying to override the system by pressing the regen button or really have no experience with these machines.

I'm loving my 3901, too!
My .02

His has been my experience as well.

Have gone through 2 regen cycles, first at 28 hr and second at 41.4 hr. The only difference I noticed was some added heat and smell from the exhaust. On the 2nd regen the RPM warning light continued to flash even though the tach was reading over 2000 RPM. It did go out after lowering and raising the throttle but then did the same thing again later.
Really love the HST although I notice more heat and now wear hearing protection because of the high pitched whine. My previous tractor was a 40 yr old Russian with gear drive and no power steering. It was my first tractor and it was a beast to drive. What a difference, love the Kubota!

In Russia, the tractor drives you!

 

[Dylansyl]

Has anyone tried to delete the DPF? I would like to know for educational benefits only. Im not trying to melt the polar ice caps.

 

[1970cs]

Has anyone tried to delete the DPF? I would like to know for educational benefits only. Im not trying to melt the polar ice caps.

You have a computer system that runs it and is tied to the instrument cluster.

And the fact that the EPA might punish your pocket book.

 

[thedevilyoulove]

You have a computer system that runs it and is tied to the instrument cluster.

And the fact that the EPA might punish your pocket book.

My understanding is that Kubota has to sell the tractors with DPF but there is no requirement that the owner must keep the DPF.

I'd be interested in a delete kit also, but I have to be honest, the DPF has given me no trouble at all (knock on wood). It's something I would pursue if the DPF started acting up and costing me money.

 

[1970cs]

My understanding is that Kubota has to sell the tractors with DPF but there is no requirement that the owner must keep the DPF.

I'd be interested in a delete kit also, but I have to be honest, the DPF has given me no trouble at all (knock on wood). It's something I would pursue if the DPF started acting up and costing me money.

So what you are telling us is that a federally mandated emission control device can be removed without recourse?

From the EPA Clean Air act "Tampering the CAA prohibits anyone from tampering with an emission control device on any motor vehicle by removing or making it inoperable prior to or after its delivery to the buyer. etc etc and prosecutes cases of significant or imminent harm is occurring"

Pat

 

[Daren Todd]

My understanding is that Kubota has to sell the tractors with DPF but there is no requirement that the owner must keep the DPF.

I'd be interested in a delete kit also, but I have to be honest, the DPF has given me no trouble at all (knock on wood). It's something I would pursue if the DPF started acting up and costing me money.

I've known someone stranded with a plugged catalytic convertor on a car and couldn't make it up a hill to get home <cough cough> . They popped the clamps that held it on, and hollowed it out with a tire iron, reinstalled it, and headed on up the mountain

 

[newbota]

I've had a L3901 about 8 days. Today I got an error code (E-20) and found a blown fuse. I changed the fuse and the code went away but it won't crank. Any suggestions?

 

[thedevilyoulove]

I've had a L3901 about 8 days. Today I got an error code (E-20) and found a blown fuse. I changed the fuse and the code went away but it won't crank. Any suggestions?

Check all safeties (PTO off, clutch all way in or rock HST petal back and forth)

 

[newbota]

No HST. Neutral, F/R neutral, PTO off, disconnected/reconnected battery, range does rabbit or neutral (won't turtle) but range has never kept it from cranking. Gauges & lights normal. Bled air just in case, no water in settlement bulb, drank a beer & smoked a cigarette. Nothing seems to help (except beer and cigarette). Manual says call dealer. Of course it was noon when I tried that. Dang it, I'm going to have to do chores if I can't get it cranked. Oh, thanks for the super quick response.

 

[Lennyzx11]

I've had a L3901 about 8 days. Today I got an error code (E-20) and found a blown fuse. I changed the fuse and the code went away but it won't crank. Any suggestions?

Did the new fuse reblow upon trying to crank?

What is error code 20 defined as?

 

[sheepfarmer]

Did the new fuse reblow upon trying to crank?

What is error code 20 defined as?

Error 20 is "communication error between ECU and Intellipanel" And action is Call dealer.

 

[WFM]

I'm so glad I bought my L3800 right before that extra EPA emissions crap
went into effect. There was talk of it right before I bought and that pushed me to buy right then. Not wait another year.

 

[Fender5803]

Hello all,
I am trying to get the correct work shop manual (WSM) for my L3901 we bought last month.

On the Messick's site I find this as a possibility ? My concern is it only says L39.
Like below ...
WSM - L3301, L39
...
Anybody in this thread find the correct manual anyplace ? I want the hard copy not a .pdf.

Thanks

 

[Fender5803]

As to my previous post re WSM.
I noticed that if i wanted an owners manual (which I have) it lists L3901 in description as below ...

Kubota: OM L3301, L3901

Hmmm ... maybe a phone call is necessary

 

[sheepfarmer]

As to my previous post re WSM.
I noticed that if i wanted an owners manual (which I have) it lists L3901 in description as below ...

Kubota: OM L3301, L3901

Hmmm ... maybe a phone call is necessary

Messick's is very helpful by phone and email, but Kubota often puts a whole series in the same manual, so it is likely the correct one.

 

[frysl]

Im having a bit of trouble with a new 3301. When I disconnect or reconnect the LA525 FEL, the pin on the right side is a bit of a problem to get out and put back in.
I have to work it out by rotating back and forth, to get it in the last 1/2 way, I have to put my boot heel to it.
Tractor has 14 hours on it.
Doing this in my drive, so its on nice level concrete, tires are all inflated properly.
Any advice?
Steve

 

[Ryansweatt2004]

Im having a bit of trouble with a new 3301. When I disconnect or reconnect the LA525 FEL, the pin on the right side is a bit of a problem to get out and put back in.
I have to work it out by rotating back and forth, to get it in the last 1/2 way, I have to put my boot heel to it.
Tractor has 14 hours on it.
Doing this in my drive, so its on nice level concrete, tires are all inflated properly.
Any advice?
Steve

Do you put a little down pressure on the loader before pulling the pins? That usually helps.

 

[Ike]

Im having a bit of trouble with a new 3301. When I disconnect or reconnect the LA525 FEL, the pin on the right side is a bit of a problem to get out and put back in.
I have to work it out by rotating back and forth, to get it in the last 1/2 way, I have to put my boot heel to it.
Tractor has 14 hours on it.
Doing this in my drive, so its on nice level concrete, tires are all inflated properly.
Any advice?
Steve

When you take it on or off do not use your arms to lift the loader frame. Use the curl function on your bucket and it goes on and off easier. When you put it back on put the pin in that goes easy and then curl the front of you bucket to line the second one up. Mine does the same thing and this is how I solved that. I am thinking maybe the loader mount on one side settled but am not sure what the cause is