White 2-105 fine tuning.

Shadow_storm56

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So the old girl runs good and now just buttoning up leaks and it's very smokey engine. It's fun to roll coal but it's not helpful for efficiency although it's still fantastic on fuel but it needs some tuning and I'm unsure whare to start... Timing? Fuel settings inside the pump? Injectors?

Fuel pump has definitely been opened and settings changed.

I attached a picture its very smokey but does run really well and sounds good. Would like to improve it though if possible.
 

hedgerow

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If it was me and its running good and pulling good I would leave it alone. I have ran a lot of those Perkins 354 and 372 engines in Oliver, White tractors and Massey combines. They get some hours on them and they like to smoke at idle. Never had a issue finding a Massey combine out in the field behind the hills just look for the smoke in the sky. You could rebuilt the pump and injectors and it will probably still smoke. Those old Perkins weren't bad on fuel they just liked to smoke. If its starting good and not using a ton of oil the motor is good and the pump and injectors are good. Most of the Perkins I had took a quart to a gallon of oil in hundred hours. We ran Massey combines with Perkin engines in them for twenty years and only ever had one injection pump go bad and it just needed resealed up.
 
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Shadow_storm56

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If it was me and its running good and pulling good I would leave it alone. I have ran a lot of those Perkins 354 and 372 engines in Oliver, White tractors and Massey combines. They get some hours on them and they like to smoke at idle. Never had a issue finding a Massey combine out in the field behind the hills just look for the smoke in the sky. You could rebuilt the pump and injectors and it will probably still smoke. Those old Perkins weren't bad on fuel they just liked to smoke. If its starting good and not using a ton of oil the motor is good and the pump and injectors are good. Most of the Perkins I had took a quart to a gallon of oil in hundred hours. We ran Massey combines with Perkin engines in them for twenty years and only ever had one injection pump go bad and it just needed resealed up.
It leaks bad and it hunts up and down is the main thing the injection pump that is.
 

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I suggest you have the pump professionally rebuilt since you know it has been monkeyed with.

This is where I would recommend sending it but you probably have some place in Canada to use.
 

Shadow_storm56

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I suggest you have the pump professionally rebuilt since you know it has been monkeyed with.

This is where I would recommend sending it but you probably have some place in Canada to use.
Theres a place nearby with a ton of perkins parts so I basically decided to try fixing it myself, I love learning new things, useful skills even if I screw it up it's already not working right.

So main things, couple bad Orings on the top cap, Timing was set a bit retarded back from stock and idk why. 🤷‍♀️. Biggest thing is dirty the thing was soo dirty inside I'm amazed It didn't plug all the injectors.
 

Shadow_storm56

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It became quite an ordeal, we bought this tractor for almost nothing and it had been neglected bad. The dirt was from fuel filters so old they were half stuck.

I ordered a rebuild kit for the injector pump as the top vanes in the transfer pump section are bad and I broke one.... all gaskets are bad and leaky.

So I took it apart, cleaned out the dirt, put it back together and cobbled with RTV for gaskets..... slight advance in pump timing as it had symptoms it needed that.

It looks terrible and definitely I need to rebuild it with the kit and get rid of all of the rtv crap but for now it run and dosen't leak.

Oh and of course it runs better than it ever has and I'm like ok so when I rebuild this again I gotta not change anything at all.

Throttle response is way better and it's quieter.... I was just trying to get it running again and fix leaks oh and reduce smoke.

It runs on magic, I'm hoping the kit doesn't take too long as it's definitely a cobble fix. 2 weeks or so I believe to get it.

Love learning new things especially when they work again
 
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Take it out and work it hard on some piece of equipment that makes it use a lot of power. Run it that way for a few hours or days. You may find it clears itself up with some hard work.