WHats the word for Ca,,, damdamdam
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CaveCreekRay
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An overview the national mainstream media is not providing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2aD53JIDzo
Skip through this... its kinda long but it was current as of last night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQSUJGzjmAI
The comments on both are telling.
Rumors are there were isolated looting incidents following the evacuation. Those looters should be shot on sight.
A good friend lives up in Incline Village near Tahoe and the ski areas have 6-8 foot bases and 10-15' of snow outside of that. The runoff will be brutal. Tahoe just reached a high not seen in decades... 8.7 BILLION gallons of water in only two days.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/02/07/lake-tahoe-gained-8-7-billion-gallons-water-2-days/#4dd8203436c6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2aD53JIDzo
Skip through this... its kinda long but it was current as of last night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQSUJGzjmAI
The comments on both are telling.
Rumors are there were isolated looting incidents following the evacuation. Those looters should be shot on sight.
A good friend lives up in Incline Village near Tahoe and the ski areas have 6-8 foot bases and 10-15' of snow outside of that. The runoff will be brutal. Tahoe just reached a high not seen in decades... 8.7 BILLION gallons of water in only two days.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/02/07/lake-tahoe-gained-8-7-billion-gallons-water-2-days/#4dd8203436c6
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I thought the generating dam proper was failing but it's the emergency spillway that's going south. The videos from Ray are good but, the one was from last week and apparently they got more rain on Saturday...
Nature always wins.
I thought the generating dam proper was failing but it's the emergency spillway that's going south. The videos from Ray are good but, the one was from last week and apparently they got more rain on Saturday...
Nature always wins.
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It's the emergency spillway that's failing , they have 8 helicopters hauling rock in trying to make temporary repairs. We are expecting rain starting Thursday thru Wednesday. When it rains it pours. Northern Ca is out of the drought , we still need more rain in Ventura county.
I hope you guys dont get all you need at one time,, I have a kid that lives in 29 palms, Im not really worried about her I figure if it gets there we got lots more to worry about. If something does let go its going to be a realy nasty
A long post on another forum but one of the local forum members was doing live video from just across the river from the spillway. He was standing on the river bank when the sirens started last night...
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1964182_Biggest-dam-in-the-country-is-going-to-overflow-this-friday--FRESH-EVAC-VIDEO-PG-118--pucker-.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1964182_Biggest-dam-in-the-country-is-going-to-overflow-this-friday--FRESH-EVAC-VIDEO-PG-118--pucker-.html
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took awhile to find the right post and video. Here is link to the actual post
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/19...C-VIDEO-PG-118--pucker-.html&page=5#i64571694
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The Engineering Tips Forum here is one of the better discussions of the Orville Dam situation.. http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=420883
Discussion of the "what ifs" if the emergency spillway were to fail, which of course gives some insight as to why the decision was made to revert back to use of the damaged main spillway to drop the water levels down, a course of action seen to present less risk. http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=421019
The failure mechanism currently happening was brought up back in 2005, but no action was taken to upgrade this 1960s era construction. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017...l-dangers-of-oroville-dam-auxiliary-spillway/
Discussion of the "what ifs" if the emergency spillway were to fail, which of course gives some insight as to why the decision was made to revert back to use of the damaged main spillway to drop the water levels down, a course of action seen to present less risk. http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=421019
The failure mechanism currently happening was brought up back in 2005, but no action was taken to upgrade this 1960s era construction. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017...l-dangers-of-oroville-dam-auxiliary-spillway/
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I just came home thru that mess yesterday. We went down for my Dad's birthday. They have a vacation place in Lodi, just south of all that mess. Interstate 5, and 99 that are the two California N/S highways that connect the areas. We took off at 1am so we could get home the same day, and they had just Closed Hwy 99. When we got out to Hwy 5, there was convoy after convoy of emergency services vehicles, CHP, Scool busses etc, heading into the area. We just wanted out!
All along every roadway and including the Highway, was standing water. I mean everywhere there was a low spot, it was full of water. It's going to me such a muddy mess, roads will get undermined, and collapse. Another California disaster zone.
They have the tax base of about the 10th largest country in the world, yet manage to squander it on anything but fixing real problems. Why don't they have back up dams so when they do get water, they can catch it, save it, and use it? Their roads and highways are absolutely horrible, new roads would be nice! Never happen. There are too many people suckling off the State teet, and nothing ever gets fixed till it totally fails. Aaahh, government in action.
All along every roadway and including the Highway, was standing water. I mean everywhere there was a low spot, it was full of water. It's going to me such a muddy mess, roads will get undermined, and collapse. Another California disaster zone.
They have the tax base of about the 10th largest country in the world, yet manage to squander it on anything but fixing real problems. Why don't they have back up dams so when they do get water, they can catch it, save it, and use it? Their roads and highways are absolutely horrible, new roads would be nice! Never happen. There are too many people suckling off the State teet, and nothing ever gets fixed till it totally fails. Aaahh, government in action.
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And after all the ones with the teets want to stay in power,,,, Wait that didnt come out right,, But come to think about it the ones with the ti ,,,,, Ahhh never mind,,, Yes Dear and Happy Valentin day to you too
Well they want to be their own la la land country, if the dam goes they'll find out real quick how that would work out. The problem I see all the time around me, another left wing cesspool, is that they scream for green power, no pipelines, and whatnot. They don't like dams because they hurt the environment, even though it's green power. So companies come in and want to setup solar farms and windmills, but then they all cry and say they don't want them because they have to look at them. You can't make those loonie toons happy with anything, where do they want to get electricity from then?
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Water is liquid gold in California and the South Western United States.. and history has more than a few local "wars" over it.
Quote from the LA Times..
Repairs to both spillways could cost $200 million or more.
Spend whatever money it takes whether it's $150 million or $500 million, Snow says. Water districts have to pay. That's my take. It's the water users obligation.
That means primarily the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California.
There's bound to be squabbling about whether the repairs are mostly for storing and transferring water or controlling floods. The answer will largely determine whether it's the water users who pay such as farmers in the San Joaquin Valley and urbanites in Southern California or everyone in the state.
I'm with Snow. Charge the water users. A spillway wouldn't be needed at all without a dam to store water for farms, industry and homes.
But politicians and government would much rather build something new than fix what already exists. Like automobiles, dams need to be periodically serviced to stay operational. But unlike autos, you can't just trade in a dam on a new one.
So who's on the teets......and maybe had not thought that they are one on the teets.. ... you don't have to live in California to be one on the teets... that is if you eat.. just bought a large can of cashews, nuts (naw not one of the walking kind) is one of the major food crops grown in California.. http://www.diamondnuts.com/growers/ didn't look at the price until the check out lane.. $18.00 about triple what we've paid in the past....been on the teets, time to pay up... growers have been hit hard by the drought. I like my food grown in this country.
LA Times Quote: You know how the rest of the country likes to make fun of California, but how much would they miss us if we were gone? You can certainly bet the weeping and wailing would be off the charts at dinner time. http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydi...rnia-its-whats-for-dinner-20140312-story.html
Quote from the LA Times..
Repairs to both spillways could cost $200 million or more.
Spend whatever money it takes whether it's $150 million or $500 million, Snow says. Water districts have to pay. That's my take. It's the water users obligation.
That means primarily the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California.
There's bound to be squabbling about whether the repairs are mostly for storing and transferring water or controlling floods. The answer will largely determine whether it's the water users who pay such as farmers in the San Joaquin Valley and urbanites in Southern California or everyone in the state.
I'm with Snow. Charge the water users. A spillway wouldn't be needed at all without a dam to store water for farms, industry and homes.
But politicians and government would much rather build something new than fix what already exists. Like automobiles, dams need to be periodically serviced to stay operational. But unlike autos, you can't just trade in a dam on a new one.
So who's on the teets......and maybe had not thought that they are one on the teets.. ... you don't have to live in California to be one on the teets... that is if you eat.. just bought a large can of cashews, nuts (naw not one of the walking kind) is one of the major food crops grown in California.. http://www.diamondnuts.com/growers/ didn't look at the price until the check out lane.. $18.00 about triple what we've paid in the past....been on the teets, time to pay up... growers have been hit hard by the drought. I like my food grown in this country.
LA Times Quote: You know how the rest of the country likes to make fun of California, but how much would they miss us if we were gone? You can certainly bet the weeping and wailing would be off the charts at dinner time. http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydi...rnia-its-whats-for-dinner-20140312-story.html
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I dont think theres to much grown in Ca that cant be grown some place else, and one of the major reasons the big famrs are there is the politico buy offs and the cheap illegal labor. If you think Ca is the only place, what ever they grow there will grow, then Im sorry to inform you,, ahhhh,,,no it aint so
So here's one theory for the collapse of the spillway, cavitation! I guess just like the old 7.3 Internationals, only on a larger scale.
http://www.chicoer.com/general-news...failure?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.chicoer.com/general-news...failure?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
This gives you a perspective of where the town is. The residence have been allowed to return to their homes.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62446/Dam-147929.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62446/Dam-147929.JPG
Kinda makes you wonder why in the heck you would build a town, in the low place, Under a dam and spillway! Cheap land, and the "it will never happen to me" attitude.