Tractor down payment back?

[gaby68]

My first email here and already need advice.
Two weeks ago I put the down payment (3000$) for an L3800HST with FEL, R4 loaded tires (21,000$). The dealer didn’t have it in stock so they order one from another dealer and in couple of days they prepared one for me in specially I agree to have a different bucket with tooth bar installed. Before delivering to my farm I said, let's do a quick inspection at dealer location. During the inspection I checked the 3pth based on info found on internet and unfortunately the tractor was jerky quite bad so I mentioned this to him. They took almost a week to try to adjust the 3pth and after that the 3pth is smooth up and down but is moving up a little bit and then down every time when the FEL is used, so I said this is not safe at all. Now I’m thinking to switch to another model if we can agree to the price or move to other brand and take the down payment back. My question is: can the dealer say I can’t switch my mind and I can’t have the down payment back?
Thanks.

 

[E/S]

That all depends on the contract you signed and whether or not it is worth the dealers while to do so.
Read your agreement.


E/S

 

[gaby68]

That all depends on the contract you signed and whether or not it is worth the dealers while to do so.
Read your agreement.
E/S

Perfectly agree as long a product is working properly, but in the case of L3800 the jerky 3pth is a design flaw.

 

[TripleR]

Kind of wondering why you asked for an opinion if you seem to already have your mind made up.

The jerky hitch has been an issues with the L Series as long as I have been reading about them and some dealers refuse to accept or acknowledge it as a "design flaw". Kubota has not done so, not ordered a recall or repair, so you are pretty well stuck in a situation such as described by E/S.

You really need to read your sales contract and try to work with your dealer to come up with something agreeable, but if you can't, whether you can do anything else is only going to be an "opinion".

 

[gaby68]

Kind of wondering why you asked for an opinion if you seem to already have your mind made up.

The jerky hitch has been an issues with the L Series as long as I have been reading about them and some dealers refuse to accept or acknowledge it as a "design flaw". Kubota has not done so, not ordered a recall or repair, so you are pretty well stuck in a situation such as described by E/S.

You really need to read your sales contract and try to work with your dealer to come up with something agreeable, but if you can't, whether you can do anything else is only going to be an "opinion".

TripleR, the question is: "can the dealer say I can’t switch my mind and I can’t have the down payment back?" and nothing more.

 

[Eric McCarthy]

Then I'd say find you a lawyer and then take the dealer to court.

 

[dkizerian]

TripleR, the question is: "can the dealer say I can’t switch my mind and I can’t have the down payment back?" and nothing more.

He answered it with this

You really need to read your sales contract and try to work with your dealer to come up with something agreeable, but if you can't, whether you can do anything else is only going to be an "opinion".

Nobody here knows what you signed, and you're not telling us IF the dealer is working with you or not, or if you've even taked to them yet.

 

[gaby68]

dkizerian: My reply to TripleR was refering to his first sentence: "Kind of wondering why you asked for an opinion if you seem to already have your mind made up." I applogize beeing litle bit crude.

Last update: the dealer is working with Kubota Canada to try and find a solution for this "jerky" 3 pth. Hope they will find one. I'll keep you informed.

 

[dkizerian]

I'd have a hard time taking delivery of a tractor with the jerky 3pt, the youtube videos make it look Horrible!

I hope they can either find you a new tractor, fix/adjust that one (make sure you try it with weight on it), or just let you out of the deal...

Good luck!

 

[Kingcreek]

I'm going to have to look into this. My grand L has never had a jerk in the hitch. Smooth as can be after 1150 hrs. Never heard of this as an issue until now.

 

[Kytim]

Is it my imagination or did Grand "L" not have these issues?

 

[gaby68]

I'm going to have to look into this. My grand L has never had a jerk in the hitch. Smooth as can be after 1150 hrs. Never heard of this as an issue until now.

As far as I read after hapened to me, this problem affects just some models from L standard series as L3200/L3400/L3800. No complain from grand L users. I found on other forum lots of threads regarding this issue and even on this forum:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ng/233308-l3400-3-point-hitch-adjustment.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/231542-l3800-jerky-hitch-fixed.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/221524-l-series-jerky-3-point.html

http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6516&highlight=jerky
http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3568&highlight=jerky
http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5193&highlight=jerky

etc., etc., etc........

 

[Kingcreek]

Whew. Thanks.

 

[mkc1962]

My new L3200 also does NOT have this problem. I did question the dealer about the issue when I ordered mine. They took me back to the service dept. Service dept did say that on accasion they would get a unit that would do that. But, they also stated there was a way to adjust it out if it does. I drove to the dealer for a loaded test prior to delivery. No issues.

I also have the 66" LA524FEL and by no means does the 3pt do anything at all when I operate the bucket.