The first b5100 Delorean

[johngwalsh]

Thanks lad's.Its a healthy mix of time and lunacy.

On an aside has anyone used www.tractorclutchzone.com to buy clutch parts?.I can get clutch and pressure plate for around 200 dollars that's less than half the price it is here(Ireland).The only oversea's company that will post to Ireland.Can anyone tell me a different/better source to get clutch parts?

 

[coachgeo]

Thanks lad's.Its a healthy mix of time and lunacy.

On an aside has anyone used www.tractorclutchzone.com to buy clutch parts?.I can get clutch and pressure plate for around 200 dollars that's less than half the price it is here(Ireland).The only oversea's company that will post to Ireland.Can anyone tell me a different/better source to get clutch parts?

shame shame...... all these "atta boys" and "great job" but when you ask for help...... they all disappear. All I can do for ya though is bump the thread back to the top.

 

[South 40]

Hey John,

All I can say is WOW, man I have done some stuff, but I am totally impressed with your Craftsmanship!!!!

That is going to be one awesome tractor when you are done with it.

Best Regards

Paul

 

[Battered Sav]

No idea about clutch suppliers.

As for

The only oversea's company that will post to Ireland

Try http://www.shipito.com/

They forward parcels anywhere in the world for a small fee, gives you a US address for postage.

 

[Aardvark]

I just spotted some bits on eBay UK that you might be interested in. The seller has a lot of stuff so it might be useful to get in touch. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kubota-B5...K_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item2c69ff9ce6

 

[johngwalsh]

Hi guys,Thanks for the comments.My clutch is en route...posted it to a friend of mine in new jersey.She is just after sending it on its way to Ireland...Havent got up to much on it lately.I want to finish the clutch before I do any more.

Dave thanks for spotting those lights for me...are they 5 1/4" lights on the B5100?When I made my bonnet it I only drilled the holes 4".At the time I was thinking that that might have been an easier size light to source.

 

[Aardvark]

I have just measured the lights on mine and they are 5" measuring across the widest part of the metal ring. The glass part that pokes through the orange panel measures about 4.75" at the front. So your holes are a tad too small but may be possible to enlarge them to suit the lights. If these go for a sensible price it would be nice to keep it looking original.

 

[barncat]

So impressed. Great read and awesome pictures. I'm not sure if I'm more amazed at the metal work or that the engine cranked right up...This is real entertainment!

 

[johngwalsh]

this project is getting bigger and bigger

 

[johngwalsh]

progress so far

 

[johngwalsh]

So I uploaded a few pics of progress in the last 2 posts.....I must fully weld up my work to date so if there are any pointers to watchout for tell me quick cos hopefully tonight I'll have it finished.

Now I need some advice please.

In the 2nd last pic you can see the splined shaft attached to the flywheel/pulley on the front of the tractor.How do I get this off.I have tried using rust/freeing agents and lubricants.I have heated it with a propane gas torch and gave it a few moderate thumps with the hammer but no budge.I'm afraid of damaging (a) the alumimium casing on the pulley housing and (b)the casing on the engine.Chop and use a puller on the remaining shaft is the obvious one but I really would like to keep the shaft intact.Please help anyone

 

[Lil Foot]

How do I get this off

Is there a cross pin holding it together? just a shot in the dark....

 

[johngwalsh]

no i was hoping that too.its pushed on to the splined shaft and secured by the bolts on the pulley housing so it cant come loose.

 

[Lil Foot]

I'm stumped for the moment.... maybe some close up pics would help?

 

[johngwalsh]

Ive had another look.Still looks like the spline must be pulled off the shaft ..no pin or point of separation on the shaft.Maybe removing the pulley will show me more options.

 

[johngwalsh]

some more pics

 

[Rob]

To be really honest, i think you are going to struggle with this one my friend.
There must have been some sort of split pin or similar fixing to keep the shafts together, otherwise they would just come apart, and even if you had a tapered shaft and key there would still need to be some thing to secure it on the shaft.
I have seen three other similar setups on B5100's etc, all of them had a hole through the shafts and then a roll pin or lynch pin through it, but there are prob numerous fittings out there.

I would say you would be better off cutting it off with an angle grinder, rather than keep on getting to heavy handed with it, you stand a very good chance of doing more damage to the end of the crankshaft etc and possible the bearing if you keep on wacking it and heating it up ( been there and done it )
Judgeing by your earlier pics with the level of corosion on the tractor, its going to be allmost rusted together and beyond separation.

On another note, judging by the level of corosion on those two shafts, it is very likely that the front pulley will also be rusted beyond repair to the end of the crankshaft, i hope it is not, but all that see air and water does not take any prisoners on this sort of kit.

good luck with it, and i hope you get it sorted, i'd just cut it of now and save any further problems and damage to other parts.

rob

 

[johngwalsh]

Thanks rob...as i feared so.
I really dont think there was a split pin in this one.I have filed around where the splined shaft and collar join together and there is nothing, not a pin/ dowl /grub screw etc.Which makes sense to as it can't back off when assembled due to the bolts on the aluminium block holding the front pulley.I have stuck in a photo of it prior to dis-assembly.

Non the less you are right, I think its grinder time.I might redesign it so I can have a split shaft arrangement like you have talked about.Would make changing the belt on the front so much easier.

 

[Lil Foot]

Wow. I have to agree with Rob- I think that is rusted to an immovable lump. If it were me, and I wanted to attempt to save the shaft, I would use an angle grinder with cutoff wheel to split the outer shaft, parallel with the splines, 180 degrees apart. With a little care, you should be able to split it without hurting the inner spline. (might have to use a Dremel up close to the crank pulley)
With it split, you should be able to use a combination of penetrating oil, heat, tapping & wiggling to get it loose. Then you might be able to weld a collar on the split shaft to reuse it if necessary. Did this 20+ yrs ago on an old logging truck PTO, and I think it is still in service.

 

[Lil Foot]

Out of curiosity, what was that pulley setup for? Is that an electric clutch behind the big pulley?