Strange noise from transmission or brakes

[D2Cat]

Don, you can go to a place like Harbor Freight and get one of these. It will get the big stuff out. Then flush with diesel, if you like.

You're doing it right, take your time. Often times mechanical things are like dumping a 500 piece puzzle on the table and wondering where to start! Little by little it begins to make sense. Soon it's a challenge, and not near as intimidating.

https://www.harborfreight.com/15-lb-capacity-telescoping-magnetic-pickup-tool-95933.html

There is another thread of someone doing gear replacement in a transmission just this week. Here it is: http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33209

 

[mllkn6]

Thank you, D2Cat, I have one of the HF magnets lights, but it will not fit inside the transmission. Maybe I'll try to get it to fit in another location to see if it works. I really appreciate you forwarding me the link to BigJim59 post, it sure cleared up a few thing and gave me new confidence. I now know where 1st and 5th gear are, and the shaft names which makes it easier to understand.

 

[RCW]

Thank you, D2Cat, I have one of the HF magnets lights, but it will not fit inside the transmission. Maybe I'll try to get it to fit in another location to see if it works. I really appreciate you forwarding me the link to BigJim59 post, it sure cleared up a few thing and gave me new confidence. I now know where 1st and 5th gear are, and the shaft names which makes it easier to understand.

Don- those little extendable magnet things are handy. Get in tight spots.

Good luck- the transmission re-build is WAY beyond my expertise, but guys here been through them before, and will get you through it too.

Lance, 100 td, and D2Cat are ALL sharp guys with this stuff!


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[D2Cat]

The magnet in the link extends out like the old style car antennas did. The end has a magnet about the diameter of a dime and 3/8" thick. Should easily reach down to drag up metal shavings.

 

[RCW]

Should easily reach down to drag up metal shavings.

Think I have one rated for 3 lbs...cost $3 or so...Don, like 'Cat said.....

A 1/2” drill bit, and it probably extends to 16” or so.

 

[mllkn6]

Thanks, D2Cat and RCW, I'm going to Ace Hardware tomorrow to see if they have one smaller than the one I have which is a Craftsman with the light. It's bigger than a dime at the end and works great most of the time. I had a smaller one at one time that was only just about 1/8" round for getting in small places but it got broken by one of the kids sometime back, that when I got the Craftsman.
I appreciate the help, guys, I know I'm not the fastest at working on things, but I have to work on them as time permits with my wife.
I hope and pray that everyone has a blessed and safe weekend. Thank you again.

 

[RCW]

Don - understand as time permits. Your family and wife need to be the priority.

Take care, and we’ll keep you and yours in our prayers.


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[mllkn6]

Well fellows, when it rains it pours,
I ordered the cir-clips and lock wires, plus a few other items I know I needed, only to finally get them in and find out they left half the order off and two other parts are wrong.
I ordered by phone, told me they had everything, two items I ordered are the rubber oil seals under the case plate that fit around the shifters, not the metal ones that go on the outside, well what do they ship, right the metal ones. The bad part is he repeated the order, "rubber oil seals" as I had him read the order back to me. Assured me they had everything in stock to complete the order, now I find out it's on back order, the lock wires.
I didn't want to start taking it apart till I had everything in hand to complete the job, it's hard enough for me to remember what I had for breakfast much less a week ago. Yes, I always take plenty of pictures just to help me along when I'm putting things back.
So now I'm on the waiting list for the back order, but what really ticks me off is they will not ship the parts that were wrong till I return the other parts, even though they owe me money back on the order, So I had to go pay for the return shipping which they don't refund by the way. Messick's is the company out of PA and they were not even the cheapest one but the only one who said they had everything in stock. It's been almost 2 weeks and they can't say when they will get them in, I think I'll order them some place else, hopefully someone will have them and once I get them cancel there.
Ok, guys, now I need someone to tell me how I go about removing everything without breaking the tractor in half if I can, so a little help if you please. Not a lot of room to work, also which shaft do I remove besides the top one as I figure it's either the 1st or second one that has to be replaced. I did clean it out with the magnet and them flush it good.
I also drained the engine oil and changed filters also, might as well do it now, nothing else to do.
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving, we had a great one, all 5 kids and grandkids pilled in for a change. It was packed but we made do and had a ball.
Thanks again for all your help, may the good Lord bless each of you.

 

[mllkn6]

Well finally got everything in, still haven't gotten my refund from Messick's yet, which is up to $33.00 now after I got charged for the replacements parts. Don't think I'll ever use them again, I'd hate to see what it would have been if it was a big order. Sent the return parts back before my last post, had to pay for the shipping myself too. I'm beginning to think I might have gotten ripped off. According to them "Checks in the mail", why didn't they just refund it back on my debit card, had it done before, next will be Christmas mail problems.
OK, guys, I need some help, tell me how to begin with this dissection of the tranny. Any help is appreciated or have I lost all my followers?

 

[007kubotaguy]

Hello
I sent you a private message.
Lance

 

[mllkn6]

Hi Guys,
Finally got the clips changed on my ole 77 L245DT in the transmission, talking about a pain in the rear, had to grind the dogear off some gears still in the transmission, hardest one was the first gear on the second shaft so it could engage the first gear on the top shaft and I could put on the clip. I used 2 - 1/4" x 6" with a 1/4" shaft Drill America Tungsten Carbide Deburring bits to do the job and still it was slow and hard to get at, working 6" deep inside the transmission through a 6" x 6" hole with a extension bit on the drill that took 3 days to do.
Finally I got enough off so the gears would engage and turn, flushed out the transmission with some diesel, let it dry over night then, reinstalled the Gear and PTO Shifter Base, then filled with Tractor Supply's Transmission Gear Oil for Old Tractors. So yesterday afternoon I cranked it up, shafted perfectly, some gear chatter but the more it runs the less noise it makes, probably from some leftover dogears that will wear off.
I have the tractor up on supports 6" off the ground the whole time, I noticed the left rear wheel wouldn't turn unless I engaged the differential lock, but as soon as I let off it stopped. What I found out was the brake was to tight or maybe frozen up on that wheel, so I adjusted it and now the wheel turns with the other one. I adjusted both brakes to work the same and will take it down tomorrow for a test drive, if ok, it get a good pressure washing and clean up too. Might even touch up the paint in places it has come off, LOL.

Thank you to all who offered help and advice, but I'd like to throw a big thank you shout out to 007kuboyaguy (Lance Newhall), without his help I'd still be scratching my head wondering what to do, he stuck with me through the whole process, even called me this morning to tell me what to look for on the wheel not turning and it was right on as always. I have pestered him to death with pictures, emails, text, phone calls and questions, he has the patience of a saint to deal with me. I'm no mechanic by any means so I didn't know anything, he explained it so even I could understand it, sent pictures and text to help. He is knowledgeable and a pleasure to work with. I can't say enough as to my gratitude for his help, understanding and patience, I am forever in his debt.

 

[mllkn6]

Just to let everyone know.
My ole 77 L245DT is back hard at work now, gave her a good pressure washing that was long over due, greased her up, rechecked all the new fluid levels, put on the new radiator hoses and fan belt, flushed the radiator and added new fluids. I cleaned out the battery box real good and sprayed it with Ospho to eat out the rust then after it dried I wire brushed the old rust off that was left and put 3 new coats of Black Rustoleum paint on it. One of the headlights was burnt out so I replaced both of then so now I got lights.
Wait what is this holes in my loader bucket, OMG, after 43 years the rust has finally got the best of the old bucket. Pressure washing did it in, in 6 places, some as big as nickels. Called an old friend who owns a fabrication shop and ordered a new 1/2" plate to replace the old one with, picked it up that afternoon. Cut the old bucket bottom out using a die grinder, then grinder the edges smooth with a side grinder, did the same thing with the supports under the bottom of the bucket. I had the plate cut a 1/2" bigger in both directions so I could fit it and mark it then cut it to fit, worked perfect too.
Pulled out my old stick welder, when I say old I mean old 1970 Craftsman 225 Amps 240 volts, after 3 tacks I smelt something smoking, my welder had bought the farm too, no big surprise as I knew it was on it's last leg, been working on it for over a year now just to keep it going. Time for a new one, took off the Harbor Freight, my best friend had bought a Titanium 225 stick welder there and it works great. So I picked up one, brought it home, fired it off and it did the job just like one of the big boys.
After that I decided I'd put me a step on the left side at the bottom of the brace for the front end loader, cut it out of a piece of 1/4" steel with 2 small angle supports for the sides, 8" long X 6" wide with the sides rounded off on the ends to keep it 4" off the back wheel, makes it a whole lot easier for an old man to get up on it now since that first step is about 8" lower.
Now waiting on the front right tire I ordered to come in and I'll change it out, hopefully it will be good to go for a long time again.
This is a great forum with knowledgeable people willing to help those people like myself who need help, without the help I received here I'd hate to think what it would have cost me at my local dealers which is 60 miles away now to get the repairs done. To be honest it probably would have still been sitting in my shop. Thank you to everyone that replied to my post and offered advice and help, you are what makes America great, the willingness to help other in need. Thank you.