mllkn6
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L245 DT, front loader, backhoe, bushog, planters, grain drill, fertilizer sprea
Hi guys, I really appreciate the help, you don’t know how much.
No, 007kubotaguy, it’s not the washer from the plug and both sides are the same. Looks like a washer that went between two objects as it shows wear from them turning on both sides and is only 1/16” thick, it was blue originally as it still has the paint on the edges and some on both sides at the top, I thought it was copper but it’s metal, probably steel, the rubber in the center is flat in the middle and it fits around the washer on both sides. It had to fit on a shaft from how it looks, in my opinion. After I posted it, I cleaned it up and looked at it under a magnifying glass to get a better feel for what it was. My question is where did it come from and how did it get off the shaft?
100td, my tractor has a PTO, not sure what a mid PTO is, and just have one at the bottom I use for my bush-hog with a 3 point hitch. No, I cleaned the pans out prior to draining the fluid out and in between each draining. I have 4 points that has to be drained, I first drained the rear wheel plugs, left and right, ran my magnet through the fluid before pouring the oil up, wiped out the pans and drained the front plug, again used the magnet. Finally drained the back plug and that’s when I found the object I question. It could be a oil seal, but to me it looks like a separator washed that fits around the shaft between two objects, but I could be wrong. The metal shavings I got out of the fluid is no more than the size of a BB if balled up into a ball, I thought there would be more.
Russell King, there is nothing listed as a “dowty washer or seal” in my book, I’m sending pictures of the Gear Drive System Groups 1, 2 and 3 for yawl to check out, this is from my original manual from 1977 when I purchased the tractor; they show everything and list name and part numbers. This tractor was made in Japan; just about everything I need when I have needed something has to be ordered if available. Both sides look the same and the rubber on the inner diameter does stick out about a 1/32” on both sides also. In my opinion it had to come from one end of a shaft, which one is anyone’s guess.
I was pushing some debris upon a brush pile with the front end loader, as I started to coast down it (only 4 feet high, it started to make a sound like the brakes were dragging and a rattle from the tranny. As soon as I got off the pile I stopped it and looked around to see what was happening, looked ok. I moved the tractor to my show, while running it in 1st or 2nd gear it would make that same noise, but in reverse, 3rd, and 4th it sounded normal except for the rattle from the tranny. It’s hard to get into 1st and 2nd, but the rest work like normal, didn’t try high range didn’t want to stress it out any more than I had already.
I jacked the rear wheels off the ground to see if the brakes had locked, but once off the ground in neutral they turned without hardly any effort, one to the front and the other to the rear. I figured if the brakes locked or something broke in one it would be real hard to turn if it turned at all. It didn’t take much force to make them turn at all, no scrubbing sound either.
I’ll attach pictures of my book, maybe you guys can figure it out better than I can as I’m at a lost.
Page 42 is Gear Drive System Group 1; Page 43 is GDS Group 2 and Page 44/45 is GDS Group 3, to me it seems there must be something more that has come off for that washer to come off, just where is it. Do you know of any way to look inside without taking the shifting levers off? On another page it shows a cover plate on the bottom in front of the rear wheels and oil filter that looks to be about 4” X 6”, think I could see anything from removing it? It about a foot or so in front of the rear plug also.
Sorry about the pictures turned sideways, but only way I could get the whole page into the picture. I appreciate all the help, guys. Thank you.
No, 007kubotaguy, it’s not the washer from the plug and both sides are the same. Looks like a washer that went between two objects as it shows wear from them turning on both sides and is only 1/16” thick, it was blue originally as it still has the paint on the edges and some on both sides at the top, I thought it was copper but it’s metal, probably steel, the rubber in the center is flat in the middle and it fits around the washer on both sides. It had to fit on a shaft from how it looks, in my opinion. After I posted it, I cleaned it up and looked at it under a magnifying glass to get a better feel for what it was. My question is where did it come from and how did it get off the shaft?
100td, my tractor has a PTO, not sure what a mid PTO is, and just have one at the bottom I use for my bush-hog with a 3 point hitch. No, I cleaned the pans out prior to draining the fluid out and in between each draining. I have 4 points that has to be drained, I first drained the rear wheel plugs, left and right, ran my magnet through the fluid before pouring the oil up, wiped out the pans and drained the front plug, again used the magnet. Finally drained the back plug and that’s when I found the object I question. It could be a oil seal, but to me it looks like a separator washed that fits around the shaft between two objects, but I could be wrong. The metal shavings I got out of the fluid is no more than the size of a BB if balled up into a ball, I thought there would be more.
Russell King, there is nothing listed as a “dowty washer or seal” in my book, I’m sending pictures of the Gear Drive System Groups 1, 2 and 3 for yawl to check out, this is from my original manual from 1977 when I purchased the tractor; they show everything and list name and part numbers. This tractor was made in Japan; just about everything I need when I have needed something has to be ordered if available. Both sides look the same and the rubber on the inner diameter does stick out about a 1/32” on both sides also. In my opinion it had to come from one end of a shaft, which one is anyone’s guess.
I was pushing some debris upon a brush pile with the front end loader, as I started to coast down it (only 4 feet high, it started to make a sound like the brakes were dragging and a rattle from the tranny. As soon as I got off the pile I stopped it and looked around to see what was happening, looked ok. I moved the tractor to my show, while running it in 1st or 2nd gear it would make that same noise, but in reverse, 3rd, and 4th it sounded normal except for the rattle from the tranny. It’s hard to get into 1st and 2nd, but the rest work like normal, didn’t try high range didn’t want to stress it out any more than I had already.
I jacked the rear wheels off the ground to see if the brakes had locked, but once off the ground in neutral they turned without hardly any effort, one to the front and the other to the rear. I figured if the brakes locked or something broke in one it would be real hard to turn if it turned at all. It didn’t take much force to make them turn at all, no scrubbing sound either.
I’ll attach pictures of my book, maybe you guys can figure it out better than I can as I’m at a lost.
Page 42 is Gear Drive System Group 1; Page 43 is GDS Group 2 and Page 44/45 is GDS Group 3, to me it seems there must be something more that has come off for that washer to come off, just where is it. Do you know of any way to look inside without taking the shifting levers off? On another page it shows a cover plate on the bottom in front of the rear wheels and oil filter that looks to be about 4” X 6”, think I could see anything from removing it? It about a foot or so in front of the rear plug also.
Sorry about the pictures turned sideways, but only way I could get the whole page into the picture. I appreciate all the help, guys. Thank you.
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