Stained concrete floors

Daren Todd

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Anyone ever stain there concrete floors?

My wife's been perusing the DIY sites, and wants us to do something similar to this video.

https://youtu.be/1gWNp_B-dhw

Wondering if anyone has done anything like this and has any tips. :D
 

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I was hopping you was gona tell me how to get the stains out
 

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My DIL is a designer, and knew I liked the sort of neo-modern-industrial look, so she suggested that when I filled in my vintage '70s sunken living room, I consider stain. Looking at the DIY sites, and liking the sort of raw look, I bought into it. Problem is, it's "one and done". No fixing, no do-overs. Because of that, I decided to use my good sprayer that I've had for years that's always served well, and is rated for a wide range of PH making it suitable for spraying the acid. Inspected before starting, cleaning valve, adjusting pattern, practicing more spray paint style (as opposed to weed/cleaner/sealant spray), all seemed good. Tried to get it in one coat, but wasn't upset to see areas I wanted to "bring out more" after it had time to go-off. But the first pull of the trigger on the touch-up coat was disaster! The nozzle cap split and squirted a wet stripe across the center of the floor and 6'+ diagonally up a new raw textured sheet rock wall... that only had ~3' of plastic... They tell you not to mess with puddles, you'll only make it worse, but what was I to do with this? My answer was to use an alternate technique applying with sponges to get a more consistent darker (slightly swirly) result with sponges (happened to have suitable on hand). Repair of the wall is not relevant to the discussion, or my temper, so I'll skip that. But in then end my "light sienna" stained floor came out more dog poo brown. But it had some coppery highlights, and though it caused a general rethink of pending paint colors and such, all in all it was deemed a success.

That was about 10 months ago now, and it's no longer considered a success by anyone. First off, the darker unbroken color is, as one might expect, horrible about showing dust and dog hair etc. But that's just an unfortunate side effect of the unfortunate color. I expected that right away and could deal with it. What I can't deal with is the poor durability. I went with the smelly solvent based sealer, which was recommended as by far the most durable. It also gave the floor a more sealed satin finish for easier mop cleaning (which as said would have to be frequent). Not much to get wrong applying it, but I found over time furniture foot pads (coffee table, sofa, recliner, etc) would sort of sink in and stick to it, requiring determination to get loose and leaving obvious permanent marks. We also questioned the manufacturer of the sealer about durability as we have 2 youngish German Sheppards in the house (aka German Shedders) and I didn't want their claws making marks. I was assured the solvent chosen was the right answer and it wouldn't be a problem. I'll give that a 2 out of 10 at best. To be fair, it's handled typical foot traffic (even dirty work soles) and even sliding stuff (and claws) have left very little signs of damage, which could easily be handled with a touch up spot seal and buff. But the furniture scaring is significant and a deal breaker for me. Probably not that bad if it were the original much more mottled range of color (which can partly hide stuff like that), but not when combined with the more uniform dark chocolate/copper we wound up with.

So, current plan is to tile sometime this spring. Luckily, when the concrete was poured, I caught the contractor before pouring it level with the bottom of the existing floor, and had him lower the top to match the original slab (minus tile minus thin set layer). I had never had a stained floor and didn't know how it worked, so I built in an escape hatch, even though it required a rather wide and thick transition strip to handle the 1/2" step. I'm SO glad I caught him on that. And at the time, i thought I couldn't believe that wasn't the plan to start with.

In any case, that's been my experience.
 
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Russ, sorry to hear of your experience with it. It looked like there was definitely an art to installing it. Wife and I are looking at doing the stain verses the acid staining. Looks a little more user friendly once all the prep work was done. Out thoughts were trying it on one of the bedrooms first, before doing the whole house. But, before we tackled the floors, there's popcorn ceilings that need to be scraped, and walls that need new paint. And that's before pulling up the lamanent flooring in the house.

We had it in an apartment before. Thats why we were considering it. The kitchen, living rooms, and bathrooms were stained. And with two teenagers, two dogs, and all the kids friends it seemed to stand up well. Now the actual sealer used, didn't hold up. That pealed, and there were very few spots that actually had the sealer still.
 

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Daren,

I looked at staining my workshop along with all the other options available -and decided on porcelain tiles, very similar to what we have all over our house. I did the workshop and love it. I will do the garage this summer as well.

The stuff is harder than concrete and dogs and kids cannot hurt it. Neither can tractors or cars.

The prep wasn't much more than what the stain video indicated.

Here's my project link...

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294935

Ray
 

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My aunt and uncle in Alabama stained their entire basement floor. It's a lakefront walkout with good lighting from many windows. They are a (LOT$$$$) better off than me. We my wife and I first visited, I told her I couldn't believe they put marble floors in. It wasn't marble, the stain made it look that way though. It looked that good. They were very satisified. Fooled me.
 

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Daren,

I looked at staining my workshop along with all the other options available -and decided on porcelain tiles, very similar to what we have all over our house. I did the workshop and love it. I will do the garage this summer as well.

The stuff is harder than concrete and dogs and kids cannot hurt it. Neither can tractors or cars.

The prep wasn't much more than what the stain video indicated.

Here's my project link...

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294935

Ray
But what you failed to mention, is you have to be a member to check out the pics :p:p

We were looking at a wood grained tile, but at $4500 just for the tile, it was more then what we wanted to spend. Especially with having to have someone come in to do the install.

And for the garage, I would just put down the epoxy covering that you paint on. Did it in a couple other houses and had it come out nice. Plus cheap and easy to do :D

We'lol know what we are dealing with on the floor, as soon as the ceilings scraped and painted, and the walls are painted. Then we'll pull the lamanent up. House used to be wall to wall carpeting, so I have a sneaky suspicion that cleaning the floors could be a bear :rolleyes:
 

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Well that's not very friendly!!! What kind of web site makes you join to see the pictures???

Sounds like you have it figured out. The Rustoleum product from Home Depot actually sticks pretty well. I used it in my last garage and it stuck pretty nice after I acid washed the floor and then neutralized it with baking soda. Its the cheapest two-part epoxy product and the yellow-tan color is tintable.

Whatever you put down, that puppy of yours will likely chew it up anyway -:) !!!

Ray
 

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I've got epoxy in my shop, and I like it very well indeed. Easy to clean, holds up really well to some serious abuse. The only down side is it's slick with wet feet. You can fix that by adding sand, but it makes it harder to clean. I find my good work shoes with non-slip rubber soles do just fine on it even wet, but I've hurt myself a few times running out there in cheap sandals when it was raining. I'll take the trade for the easy to clean (and squeegee if needed) smooth floors.