Stabil wins, hands down.

[GeoHorn]

How much did Stabil pay him to do that testing? Most of these guys that do these YouTube videos make money one way or the other of their videos and a common way is to be sponsored by some company. Plus his testing is more Hillbilly than controlled.

Project Farms demonstration did NOT support the claims of Stabil. The video actual Disproved Stabils claim that it completely preserves fuel. He showed that Stabil worked “better” than other products….however it did not work perfectly…except at corrosion-control.

Project Farm does not accept money from product-suppliers. Yes…they ”make money one way or the other”…. from lead-in ads, for example ….but your accusation is baseless.

 

[BAP]

Project Farm does not accept money from product-suppliers. Yes…they ”make money one way or the other”…but your accusation is baseless.

Why is it baseless to ask valid questions? Is it because I questioned a buddy of yours?

 

[GeoHorn]

Why is it baseless to ask valid questions? Is it because I questioned a buddy of yours?

Your attempt to “personalize” that accusation is repugnant, not funny. You didn’t “ask valid questions”….you made baseless accustaions.

(and insulted our Appalachian friends)

 

[Shawn T. W]

While I've endured a few of his video's, his "style" tone of voice doesn't suit me ... I only watched about the 1st 10 seconds or so of this video ...

I still have 100% gas with Pri G in my bigger portable generator, Honda EM 6500 SX - a 7000 watt surge one, I do shut off the petcock and let it run dry before storing ... Last fill was around 2018 ... I only use it occasionally, it has a 7 gallon tank IIRC, it's about half full now sitting in my basement ... Last time I used it about a year ago, I turned on the fuel petcock, rolled it outside onto a pallet, and picked it up with my forks, added a welder and supplies, got to where I was working ... That Honda engine started first pull, ran fine while I needed it ...

 

[Mark_BX25D]

How much did Stabil pay him to do that testing? Most of these guys that do these YouTube videos make money one way or the other of their videos and a common way is to be sponsored by some company. Plus his testing is more Hillbilly than controlled.

You should learn some facts. Project Farm accepts no money from anybody. He's been doing excellent, HONEST testing for a lot of years.

His testing is just fine, fanboy.

I like Seafoam for its intended purpose, but it's just not any good at stabilizing gasoline.

 

[Mark_BX25D]

BTW, I used to use that blue stuff, but I'll be sticking to Stabil until I see some evidence of a better product.

 

[Botamon]

While I've endured a few of his video's, his "style" tone of voice doesn't suit me ... I only watched about the 1st 10 seconds or so of this video ...

Yup. His way of talking turns me off also. Like he has waayyyyy too much caffeine in his system.

 

[McMXi]

Yup. His way of talking turns me off also. Like he has waayyyyy too much caffeine in his system.

Agreed. His videos are beyond annoying regardless of whether or not his tests and results are meaningful and I have no opinion either way on that. I don't know why he presents them in such a way. He has a lot of data to get through, but I'd be slightly more inclined (only slightly) to watch his channel if he broke the videos up or made them longer so that he could talk at a normal rate. Thinking about it, his presentation style is the single most annoying style I've ever seen.

 

[Mark_BX25D]

While I've endured a few of his video's, his "style" tone of voice doesn't suit me ...

Same here, but his solid presentation of just facts is just what I want.

 

[imarobot]

Same here, but his solid presentation of just facts is just what I want.

I put up with the caffeine drive because what he has to say is very useful. There is a lot of information in a short amount of time. I would need some kind of stimulus to get all that info out that quick!
Listen to and appreciate the real-world testing that he does.

 

[OutInTheCountry]

As annoying as his cadence is, I'm impatient and get even more annoyed by youtubers who drone on slowly and take forever to get to the point. A lot of times when I'm watching Project Farm videos I'll watch him start each test with one product so I know what his method is then skip ahead to the graph showing results. If it's something I'm really interested in buying I'll sit through the entire video. I appreciate his tests. Yes, he uses home grown methods but he puts a good bit of thought into them and they usually correlate well to real world usage. Plus he tests a lot of different brands, unlike most youtubers who only test the one or two they happen to own.

 

[BAP]

You should learn some facts. Project Farm accepts no money from anybody. He's been doing excellent, HONEST testing for a lot of years.

His testing is just fine, fanboy.

I like Seafoam for its intended purpose, but it's just not any good at stabilizing gasoline.

What a jerk you are. You can’t stand anyone that asks questions that aren’t to your liking. You and Geohorn, both immediately started calling me names just because I asked a couple of questions about how the testing was done and supported. Just because you are so in love with Project Farm, you can’t stand anyone questioning how things are done. Not very objective to me. Sounds like maybe you and your buddy Project Farm are both accepting money from companies to do product support.

 

[Shawn T. W]

Probably not accepting money from manufacturers, but more than likely from utube ... But Pri-G & D have been around for quite awhile, why exclude them ...

Reminds me of a radio announcer for a Friday night fight ...

 

[tghs]

stabil in my emergency generator,, it sits waiting for a hurricane or ice-storm (carb dry) we had an outage that went over 12 hours last month, decided to start it up,, running great on the second pull,, took it off choke and was getting some power cords out when the garage lights came on.. sitting back in the garage with the carb dry..

 

[Mark_BX25D]

What a jerk you are. You can’t stand anyone that asks questions that aren’t to your liking.

You didn't ask any question. You just accused someone you don't know of being dishonest. You had zero facts on which to base that accusation. That's a scummy thing to do.

And, in fact, all of the evidence is quite the opposite.

The problem is that somebody dared say (and prove!) something bad about your pet product.

By the way, your pet product is very good at what it's intended for, which Farm Project has proven. It's just crap for stabilizing fuel.

It's kind of like WD-40. It's very good at its intended use. But later, as a marketing ploy, they decided to add, "penetrating oil" to its list of uses, but it's almost useless as a penetrating oil

There is nothing makes a man suspect much, more than to know little.

Francis Bacon

 

[Mark_BX25D]

Probably not accepting money from manufacturers, but more than likely from utube ...

And the problem with that would be... what?

But Pri-G & D have been around for quite awhile, why exclude them ...

My guess is he's never heard of them. I never had before this thread. I'll have to look into them.

Reminds me of a radio announcer for a Friday night fight ...

He sure ain't no Howard Cosell!

(Did I just date myself? I think I just dated myself...)

 

[McMXi]

I'll continue to use STA-BIL but not because of the testing or results reported by a YouTuber, but because I have no reason to change what has apparently worked for me over many years. That's empirical data applicable only to my use of gasoline. I only use ethanol free gas in my chainsaws, leaf blower, lawn mower, log splitter, weed eater, concrete mixer etc., so that might be part of why I've had no issues related to fuel in addition to how long the fuel is stored.

Keeping water out of the fuel is a good idea regardless of which fuel stabilizer is used. I don't know if clean, uncontaminated fuel with stabilizers was tested, or whether ethanol free gas with stabilizers was tested, and honestly don't care either way. Unless the content creator is a proven expert in the field of interest I consider all of this stuff to be entertainment and nothing more. Of course, the hook is confirmation bias, and we see plenty of that here. I certainly have been guilty of that myself but it's something that I'm trying to avoid as much as possible.

When it comes to educational YouTube content by experts I watch Star Talk, The Efficient Engineer, FishbumpTV, Smarter Every Day etc. They have actual experts with PhDs and proven years of experience in a particular field.

 

[Shawn T. W]

And the problem with that would be... what?

I never said one way or another ... I'd suggest a couple of deep breaths . . .

 

[McMXi]

Confirmation bias | Definition, Examples, Psychology, & Facts | Britannica

Confirmation bias is a person’s tendency to process information by looking for, or interpreting, information that is consistent with their existing beliefs.

www.britannica.com

confirmation bias, people’s tendency to process information by looking for, or interpreting, information that is consistent with their existing beliefs. This biased approach to decision making is largely unintentional, and it results in a person ignoring information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. These beliefs can include a person’s expectations in a given situation and their predictions about a particular outcome. People are especially likely to process information to support their own beliefs when an issue is highly important or self-relevant.

This is what it comes down to here. Someone uses STA-BIL and wants to believe that they made the best choice, so any data that supports and confirms the validity of their choice is held up as prima facie evidence that they make good choices, at times regardless of the source.

We all do it to some extent or another whether it's recommending the same tractor, implement, truck, trailer, tv, washing machine or anything else that we own. If someone chooses a different model to one being recommended, it's often interpreted as an attack on the decision making process of the one who made the recommendation. We need to stop doing this. It simply doesn't matter what other people do or buy or what they think about our own choices whether it's how we build something, maintain something, store something or whatever.

I've been using Stanadyne for decades but is it the best diesel additive? I have no idea, but if YouTube is your go to source for decision making you'll be left none the wiser when it comes to the "testing" of Stanadyne. I'm trying a different diesel additive at the moment based on the recommendation of someone who does seem to have some expertise when it comes to oil, fuel and additives. I have zero data to support either choice other than decades of trouble-free diesel equipped truck, tractor and generator ownership and that's just fine with me.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Here are words to live by, and if you don’t do as I say, your nuts, and living one the edge of insanity. (and they must all be true, cause you read it on the inter-web and it/they has worked for me )

Use Stabil for your gas preservation

Sea Foam for injector cleaning.

Powershot for your diesels.

Lucas Red and tacky grease.

Rotella 5W-40 for all diesel engines.

Wally World 0w-20 for your wifes car.

Run 89 octane in all your cars……..(except old Fords….they need 92….ask me how I know this)

.45 acp for EDC

AR-15’s for home defense

and finally……..Don’t talk to police without a lawyer


I’m working on a Hamas/Palestine deal next…………Man, if only I could find some way to “be in charge of the world”.