Pto pump shaking badly? Why

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So all PTO pumps seem to shake some but the one I use to boost pressure to my irrigation reel started fairly shaky but keeps getting worse and now shakes like if you taped a sledge hammer to the driveshaft. Had to switch pumps it was just insane. Ironically the only non shakey part is the driveshaft. I took the cover off and can't see anything wrong with the impeller but haven't gotten it completely out it. The other pump shakes in the same way but 1% of the intensity. Only shakes when it's pumping not when just spinning.

Everything appears fine... bearings, gears... everything seems fine so it must be somthing with the impeller I can't see yet... maybe?

More or less need advice on what to look for.
 

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No idea what you are physically describing so you might want to post pictures.

But since you’re using some type of PTO drive shaft, are you sure it is put together correctly? There is normally only one way on newer shafts but older shafts can be put together so the ends are clocked incorrectly and cause vibrations.
 

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No idea what you are physically describing so you might want to post pictures.

But since you’re using some type of PTO drive shaft, are you sure it is put together correctly? There is normally only one way on newer shafts but older shafts can be put together so the ends are clocked incorrectly and cause vibrations.
The pto isn't what's shaking and yes it can only go one way on it too. I meant the pump is shaking as bad as if the PTO was horribly off balance but it's not the PTO that's shaking in this case.

I wish it was that simple.....
 

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Russell King

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Then it is probably the impeller has lost a vane or caught something on a vane
 

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How is the pump coupled to the PTO shaft? Maybe that coupling is not centered, or fully engaged. Maybe that suction hose is pulling on the pump because of the tight bend and weight of water causing it to be imbalanced.
 

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@D2Cat

I recall that some member on here works for some company that deals with pumps (rental?). I believe he repairs the pumps.

I can’t recall what member it is but do you recall that user’s name?
 

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Have you bent the PTO shaft on the tractor itself? We had a tractor that happened because the trailer we used on it was a sawdust shooter wagon that you could shoot sawdust or sand into freestalls. It was hydraulic driven and had a big hydraulic pump that ran off the PTO because it was self contained system. The pump was heavy and it slid directly onto the tractor shaft and hung there without support. It eventually bent the tractor shaft.
 

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Have you bent the PTO shaft on the tractor itself? We had a tractor that happened because the trailer we used on it was a sawdust shooter wagon that you could shoot sawdust or sand into freestalls. It was hydraulic driven and had a big hydraulic pump that ran off the PTO because it was self contained system. The pump was heavy and it slid directly onto the tractor shaft and hung there without support. It eventually bent the tractor shaft.
No it's literally running a different pump in the meantime that I need elsewhere but had to borrow for this and all is good.

Everything was shaking but the pto was pretty much the only thing not shaking.