Probably had more to do with a friend or brother that made these stupid cans. Passed a law and suddenly he had a market for his crappy design.
Portable gas cans
- Thread starter Toyboy
- Start date
All these ignorant comments are hilarious... The EPA has no ties to any manufacture of anything, they are not making a dime when something such as a new fuel can is made. If there was some brother or friend behind it still does not earn the EPA one single penny for them applying the laws.
It's simple, fuel was being wasted and spilled all over the ground, we are all guilty of it at some point or another. Hell I seem to spill more now with these silly ass cans then I ever did with the old ones.
Boils down to soil samples, testing, observation. I'm sure for some folks that have sensitive skin may have spilt some fuel on themselves accidental and would up in the hospital with chemical burns. Soooo medical records and documents helped in the decision.
If you really think the EPA and the many many portable fuel can manufactures are in cahoots together then your an idiot!
It's simple, fuel was being wasted and spilled all over the ground, we are all guilty of it at some point or another. Hell I seem to spill more now with these silly ass cans then I ever did with the old ones.
Boils down to soil samples, testing, observation. I'm sure for some folks that have sensitive skin may have spilt some fuel on themselves accidental and would up in the hospital with chemical burns. Soooo medical records and documents helped in the decision.
If you really think the EPA and the many many portable fuel can manufactures are in cahoots together then your an idiot!
Do you have to be a freaking ass? It was actually a joke, because there is no real reason for these stupid cans.
Do you really think laws are not passed to help out buddies? Seriously if you don't believe laws are passed to make a friend or donor happy you live in a fantasy world. Might want to consider your own intelligence level before you call people idiots.
There where no real studies done. Some idiot came up with this idea and it was passed as a law. Whether or not someone did it to help a buddy, or if it was just out of stupidity is irrelevant.
Last edited:
This might give us a clue as to who/what was behind the change maybe?
CARB compliant....
CARB = California Air Resources Board
Maybe the EPA just followed California?
CARB compliant....
CARB = California Air Resources Board
Maybe the EPA just followed California?
Lil Foot
Well-known member
Lifetime Member
Equipment
1979 B7100DT Gear, Nissan Hanix N150-2 Excavator
Did this to my two crappy "safe" diesel cans this weekend, and although they are improved, they still ain't great. I would have never bought these things, but they came with my tractor.
I think the EPA was involved in mandating the new changes, & wouldn't be surprised if someone's brother got rich over them, but I'm absolutely sure that the potatohead who designed them was a college boy who never poured gas in his whole life.
Lil Foot
Well-known member
Lifetime Member
Equipment
1979 B7100DT Gear, Nissan Hanix N150-2 Excavator
I do recall watching a show where someone took fuel cans out on a boat to refill the tank as needed, and was pissed as hell about the cans blabbering about govt mandate. Though I have not personally researched if they are mandated, I do recall Blitz getting sued out of business for the standard 'rear removable vent' gas cans that we are all familiar, and try to make the new gas cans like.
Either way, if all MFG'rs are going to the so called safety design because one can be sued out of business when a moron misuses a gas can, this is still because of the Gov having its head square up its rectum. There are several industries that need tort reform to ensure they're not put out of business by a handful of ambulance chasers.
We need the "Darwin Act" already. There are just those morons out there who always seem to find the most ridiculous way to hurt themselves outside of any foreseeable warning one could ever come up with.
We as citizens and business owners need to be protected from people who would try and use a hair dryer in the shower, maybe suck dirt out of their eye with a vacuum, or even yes, pour gasoline on a fire out of a gas can full of gas.
You can't fix stupid, and I've yet to see any curriculum try to teach common sense.
Last edited:
The other underlying problem that caused these new gas cans are the stupid sheeple who stored the old style cans in their car garage near the gas hot water heater and BOOM goes their house.
So really its not just the EPA and fuel spilling all over the place but the fuel cans being improperly stored in areas it should not be. Too many people want to store gas, kerosene and other explosives near other things like fertilizers in their garage which is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.
My dad was a fire fighter here in town for 25 years and I can't count the number of stories he's told us about home fires starting in the attatched garage that store the hot water heater supplied by a gas line, the pilot light stays light and then idiots put gas cans and lawnmowers in the same garage and up goes the house in flames, all because the vapors from the fuel cans caused a house fire.
So really its not just the EPA and fuel spilling all over the place but the fuel cans being improperly stored in areas it should not be. Too many people want to store gas, kerosene and other explosives near other things like fertilizers in their garage which is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.
My dad was a fire fighter here in town for 25 years and I can't count the number of stories he's told us about home fires starting in the attatched garage that store the hot water heater supplied by a gas line, the pilot light stays light and then idiots put gas cans and lawnmowers in the same garage and up goes the house in flames, all because the vapors from the fuel cans caused a house fire.
The safety flapper in the only 5gal safety can I have broke within the first year. The thing leaks like no tomorrow too where the spout connects to the can.
I bought a bunch of the old school gas cans in the late 1900's while preparing for the end of the world. After my uncle died, I got his old school yellow diesel can with the pop off vent lid on the back. My father in law gave me a blue new style diesel can that vents up through the spout but it's not the kind you have to push on in order to pour (spring loaded).
For the blue can, I used the appropriate sized Unibit to drill a hole on the part of the can aft of the top handle when it was empty. After ensuring all the plastic shavings were removed from the can, I made a valve stem fishing tool with a 5/16-32 female thread on the end. I took the valve core out of the stem and pulled it through the hole. Now I have a diesel can that pours rather quickly and has a closeable vent hole.
For the blue can, I used the appropriate sized Unibit to drill a hole on the part of the can aft of the top handle when it was empty. After ensuring all the plastic shavings were removed from the can, I made a valve stem fishing tool with a 5/16-32 female thread on the end. I took the valve core out of the stem and pulled it through the hole. Now I have a diesel can that pours rather quickly and has a closeable vent hole.
I went on Ebay and got some of the yellow vent caps. Could not be easier, drill a 1/2" hole and they pop right in. Looks factory made. I liked that modification better than the tire valve. I found that using a 1/2" step drill cut a cleaner hole than a regular drill also.
Not sure what the long term effect would be on the rubber valve after exposure to gas- diesel fuel.
Not sure what the long term effect would be on the rubber valve after exposure to gas- diesel fuel.
Great idea! How do you reach the valve inside the gas can to get it lined up with the hole to pull it through, though?
Never mind, my widdle bwain figgered it out after I posted that message, and then my idea was validated after seeing that video.