oil from breather - B7100HST

KevinD

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B7100HST
Mar 8, 2010
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wardsboro, VT
Hello, I'm a newbie to the forum and a newbie tractor owner. Bought the tractor less than a year ago and it has about 3500 hours. I use it for snow throwing and noticed a heavy oil drip from the breather hose coming out of the valve cover. Oddly enough, seems like the oil level is too high, but I'm not sure why. I changed the oil last summer with the correct quantity (4.1 quarts) and the oil on the dipstick is not as black as it typically is? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 

B7100

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B7100,B7100 with Backhoe and FEL, Goldoni Quad 20
Feb 11, 2010
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Hello, I'm a newbie to the forum and a newbie tractor owner. Bought the tractor less than a year ago and it has about 3500 hours. I use it for snow throwing and noticed a heavy oil drip from the breather hose coming out of the valve cover. Oddly enough, seems like the oil level is too high, but I'm not sure why. I changed the oil last summer with the correct quantity (4.1 quarts) and the oil on the dipstick is not as black as it typically is? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Was the oil at the correct level after the oil change and has risen since then? if so is it a slightly grey to milky colour,if so ,has the water level in the radiator gone down which would suggest a leak between the two..head gasket or cracked block maybe ?..
dave
 
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KevinD

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B7100HST
Mar 8, 2010
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wardsboro, VT
Oil was at correct level. Oil coming out has no sign of water/coolant contamination. Strange. Seems to push more out when vehicle is under load.
 

dusty-t

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Hi Kevin. Check your Hydraulic oil level. I had a bad seal between the hydraulic pump and the engine.Hydraulic was seeping into engine oil. Just an Idea. May be some thing else. Good luck and keep us posted.:D Dusty
 

B7100

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B7100,B7100 with Backhoe and FEL, Goldoni Quad 20
Feb 11, 2010
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Oil was at correct level. Oil coming out has no sign of water/coolant contamination. Strange. Seems to push more out when vehicle is under load.
When the rings in an engine are worn they allow compression gases to pass them by and they end up in the sump.The vapour which contains some oil will condenses in the breather and drips out. Stick your finger to block the beather pipe for 10-15 seconds and then take your finger off ,I suspect there may be a whoosh of gas showing your rings are worn.
Edit: when the engine is under load the oil is hotter and thinner so gets passed the rings and turned to vapour faster. The oil level usually falls though!
dave
 
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dusty-t

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You said the oil was clearer than it was. Hydraulic oil or diesel fuel, if it is deisel you can smell it. With 3500 hrs it probably has some blow by as well. If it is diesel in the oil I would not run the tractor. If it is hyd oil you can run it to load on a trailer or to move it, but I would not go blowing snow with it. If the oil level is rising it can only come from three sources rad, fuel or hyd. Keep us posted.:D Dusty
 

KevinD

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B7100HST
Mar 8, 2010
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wardsboro, VT
Thanks for the info guys. I will take a look at her and let you know. I'm praying its not worn out rings. The only that is strange is the problem just appeared out of nowhere. I would think if it were worn rings it would have occurred over time. I'm leaning/hoping its the hydraulic leaking into the crankcase. I did not smell diesel fuel and it's definitly not coolant so the excess fluid needs to be coming from somewhere. Dusty T, how big was the job to repair the leak from the hydraulic pump? Thanks
 

kuboman

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Loosen the crankcase drain plug and see if you get any glycol dripping out. If not then it is either diesel or hydraulic fluid. Either of those is better than glycol.
 

dusty-t

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First I just tried to replace the seal but it did not hold.it turned out that the pump was just worn out.It wasn't a big job to change the pump. But it cost around $600.00. Never had a problem after, and with 3500 hrs on yours I would skip the trial and error and just do the pump. If your tractor runs good and has good power and does not go through much oil then I would'nt worry about it.:D Dusty Wow I should reread my own posts before I post them. When I said don't worry about it I meant the blow by.
 
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KevinD

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B7100HST
Mar 8, 2010
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wardsboro, VT
I'm trying to track down the number for the hydraulic pump and/or the seal. Would this be the entire HST assembly? I have a part list but can't seem to locate the area of the affected part(s). Thanks
 

stuart

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B7001 with loader & tiller, 3 point hitch and 4' rear blade
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For me it was large quantities of oil spilling out the overflow line. Oil level was always overfull every time I checked. First clue, the oil had a slight bluish tinge, then become markedly blue. Second clue, the FEL got really sluggish. Third clue, I had to add a gallon of (blue) trans/hydraulic fluid.

It cost about $1200, as the seals, pump and some of the FEL lines had to be replaced. Whoever installed the aftermarket FEL should be taken out and shot. The pump runs on a keyway from the fuel injector pump, so there is a direct path to the crankcase. Also, it took 3 weeks to get a genuine Kubota hydraulic pump. Fortunately, all this happen last year just after the end of snow season.

Stuart