Off Topic again Gun Control fro Dummies

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Good video. Of course, it will only mean something to someone who wants to listen.
But, I agree with it. I am a Mennonite pastor, and to many, my opinion is in direct opposition of everything the Mennonite church stands for.
There are reasons for that.
1) The Mennonite church designates itself through three denominational differences- peace, baptism, and communion (When applicable, we will perform baptism by sprinkling, and have foot washing during communion, as a symbol of servanthood to each other). The Mennonite church believes in living peaceably, which in an essence, I agree with. Turning the other cheek is the higher ground. But, that can come at a price. How can I turn the other cheek when someone attacks my family or an innocent person? I can turn the other cheek when the attack is on me; but, I am not "living peaceably" when I allow others to be hurt. My belief is that the person doing the hurting automatically accepts the possibility of being hurt back. The innocent person is just that, innocent. So, the person doing the hurting has it coming, not because I am violent or malicious, but because they put themselves in that realm of posibility. They have to take personal responsibility for their actions. I believe that my responsibility, born in Scripture, is to protect the innocent. I don't chose to hurt another human being, but if THEY put ME in that position, so be it. That is where I stand.
Why did I share that? Because, to me, it is the heart of the matter. I cherish the right to bear arms because it enables me to fulfill a responsibility. I can not control another persons actions, and they have to accept responsibility for them. I will not allow an innocent person, whether it is another or myself, to suffer. That isn't hate, or intolerence, or violent. It is reality. The right to bear arms is a foundational right, as important as any other. To attempt to take it away is to disable a person from fulfilling a mature, loving, elemental right of protecting others and themselves.
 

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You know your democracy is gone, when Blackwater is in charge to protect your parlament... :(

"Ambassador Leonidas Chrysanthopoulos apparently caused quite a stir on Thursday when he told a diplomatic newspaper in Canada that the Greek government has commissioned "Blackwater" (or Academi) -a powerful mercenary army- to provide military security to the Greek Parliament! "
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How much fear must the parlament have, when they do not trust any security of their own people. Looks like corruption does not work for ever...

I don't know about the laws in greek regarding gun control, but in Germany there are also some groups who want to ban firearms. All of them.

I have now an idea why...

carl
 

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...Turning the other cheek...
Hello, excuse my English, but it is not my first language.

The sermon on the mount the new testament is a vision of a better world without violence and falseness. And I really belief it is a good idea.
But human mankind is not able to do so. There will be always a criminal, who like to take a fortune and that mean, if all good man turn the other check, they will be killed, in slavery or just at the edge to survive.
I do not believe in a thing like paradise, I stay in reality.
A reason to let people suffer without stopping the aggressor is, to get a place in paradise. That's what was told on the mount. (If ever happen...)
I decided to stop aggressors because the life of others is to precious for just an idea.

So I quit that vision a long time ago and follow something else. Be nice to someone who is nice to you and let the others know and feel that they are not welcome!

carl