New Here G6200 Starting Question

[69coronet440]

New to the site. I've have a G6200 for about 3 years now, I love this beast of a mower. We just went through a terrible hurricane and my tractor was completely submerged in water for about 8 hours. We had evacuated so I had no way of rescuing the tractor from the flood waters.

The good news....I've removed all the water from the engine by removing the glow plugs and turning it over by hand. It starts up and seams to run fine.

The bad news....It will not start by using the key. I've been using a jumper wire from the starter solenoid and touching the other end to the + battery terminal, with the key in the run position, to get it started. The glow plug indicator is not working and I don't think the glow plugs are working as it is very difficult to cold start (cranks over quite a few times before it will fire)

Before the tractor was flooded it would start with the key, and the glow indicator/plugs worked fine, although I would get the starter "click" sometimes, and have to turn the key multiple times.

Where should I start with diagnosing the problem? Ignition switch, ground connections?

 

[cliffboyer]

I have a G5200....good mower!

I think there is a relay in the dash for glow plugs. I'd check everything in there for corrosion, faulty connections, etc. Shoot some contact cleaner in ignition too.

Change hydro fluid & filter as well.

 

[mickeyd]

Welcome to the OTT forum. You came to the right place to get answers.

Sorry about your hurricane problems. Did you have much damage?

 

[69coronet440]

That will be where I start, pull the dash and clean/check all the connections. It looks like i'll need to pull the steering wheel in order to get the dash off. Is this correct?

This town is just now starting to get back to some form of normality. Most people have power back, stores are opening back up, gas stations actually have fuel, the flood waters are finally starting to go down so the major highways into town are finally opening back up. I fared well considering, tons of trees down, shingles blown off the house, one outbuilding with structural damage from a tree, another outbuilding completely destroyed by a tree, septic backup into house, well pump and filtration system ruined from flood waters. It's a mess, but it could be a lot worse.

 

[cliffboyer]

Actual dash removal should not be necessary. Instead remove the perforated metal cover below dash.

Taking out battery might give you more working room too.

 

[mickeyd]

That will be where I start, pull the dash and clean/check all the connections. It looks like i'll need to pull the steering wheel in order to get the dash off. Is this correct?

This town is just now starting to get back to some form of normality. Most people have power back, stores are opening back up, gas stations actually have fuel, the flood waters are finally starting to go down so the major highways into town are finally opening back up. I fared well considering, tons of trees down, shingles blown off the house, one outbuilding with structural damage from a tree, another outbuilding completely destroyed by a tree, septic backup into house, well pump and filtration system ruined from flood waters. It's a mess, but it could be a lot worse.

I hope everything gets back to normal quickly for you!

I know how disruptive things like that can be. In 2011 when we had all the tornadoes here, it took out the big major power lines as well as the all the damage to the cities. Since the power was going to be out for several days, we packed up and went to Atlanta. Stayed there until our neighbor told us the power was back on. Then there was all the cleanup to do but it was a lot easier with the power back on and able to go in a get a "cold" drink.

 

[BruceP]

I have G5200 (same tractor, slightly smaller engine)

There is no relay between the keyswitch and the Bendix-solenoid.... only two 'safety switches' which are KNOWN for going bad and causing starting-issues.

The starting issue you are having is most likely one of the two 'safety switches'
1) PTO (switch is near your left knee when you are sitting on tractor where the PTO lever pivots)
2) Neurtal (switch is infront of right-rear tire on the frame connected to the HST linkage)

Either or both of these 'safety switches' can be bypassed by unpluggging the connector and jumpering the pins in the connector. When you jumper one of the 'safety switches' and the engine cranks... you have pinpointed the problem.

I hope it goes without saying that after total-submersion, you need to replace ALL fluids. (engine-oil, HST fluid, antifreeze, fuel, filters....etc) Then run that thing HOT HOT HOT for several hours to drive out any residual moisture.

 

[69coronet440]

I have G5200 (same tractor, slightly smaller engine)

There is no relay between the keyswitch and the Bendix-solenoid.... only two 'safety switches' which are KNOWN for going bad and causing starting-issues.

The starting issue you are having is most likely one of the two 'safety switches'
1) PTO (switch is near your left knee when you are sitting on tractor where the PTO lever pivots)
2) Neurtal (switch is infront of right-rear tire on the frame connected to the HST linkage)

Either or both of these 'safety switches' can be bypassed by unpluggging the connector and jumpering the pins in the connector. When you jumper one of the 'safety switches' and the engine cranks... you have pinpointed the problem.

I hope it goes without saying that after total-submersion, you need to replace ALL fluids. (engine-oil, HST fluid, antifreeze, fuel, filters....etc) Then run that thing HOT HOT HOT for several hours to drive out any residual moisture.

If the safety switche(s) we’re faulty wouldn’t the tractor not run, or does that just prevent it from cranking?

 

[Cglaza]

If the safety switche(s) we’re faulty wouldn’t the tractor not run, or does that just prevent it from cranking?

It would just prevent it from cranking.

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[69coronet440]

I finally got around to troubleshooting the starting issue and it ended up being the ignition switch. I purchased a new one from Messicks, it was a easy swap out after removing the battery.

I still need to replace the starter solenoid as I still get the click, no start, condition once in a while, and have to turn the key multiple times before it turns over.

Where can I purchase just the solenoid? I only see the starter/solenoid combo for sale at Messicks.

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[Cglaza]

It will only come as one unit. A good starter rebuild shop would be able to renew it for you though.

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