New guy on board needing help

dpcarson

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Jul 28, 2018
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Hey guys,
I am the new guys that signs up because I need help.

I am getting no power to panel/console.

Battery had gone dead because I left it one for a couple days, stupid me. Put it on the charger and let it sit for a week after charging and still holding 12.8 v. Connected it and nothing. Have continuity from neg post to frame. Also have 12.8v at the starter grounding to the frame. All fuses to the lower left of panel are checking good. no lights, no beeps, no nothing at the panel. Where do I go next from here?

Thanks
 

greeno

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I’d start by telling us what tractor you’re trying to get going.


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Is it possible that you recharged in reverse polarity?
Check fusible link near starter motor.
 

dpcarson

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Yep, sorry I missed that tidbit. It is an L2900 gst.

I am certain I did not charge in reverse polarity. Well, not absolutely 100%, I have been known to do dumb stuff on occasion. But, I will go with 99.9.
 

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I would start with load testing the battery.
They can show 12+ volts static, but cannot deliver cranking amps to drive anything.
My experience is more likely after a big discharge like it went through.


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Blondie70

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I'd clean the contact points to ground and on the battery. Also the positive ones.
May show continuity, but under load it may fail. Check all fuses also and any fusible links.:)
 

wgator

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Also check the slow blow fuse which should be located on outside of wire loom below where your muffler bolts to the exhaust manifold.
 

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dpcarson, I was in your neck of the woods this morning on River Road at our deer lease.

Welcome to OTT, you will get some great advice here.

I live on HWY 55 near Old Stage road if you know where that is.

Far as I know you are the closest member on here near me, some in Raleigh area, Apex area, and Roberson county but no one I know of close as you.

My real name is Jay Johnson and I know a number of guys over you way used to hunt in Bunnlevel and played baseball against a number of guys who went to Western Harnett back in the 80's.
 

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Hey guys,
I am the new guys that signs up because I need help.

I am getting no power to panel/console.

Battery had gone dead because I left it one for a couple days, stupid me. Put it on the charger and let it sit for a week after charging and still holding 12.8 v. Connected it and nothing. Have continuity from neg post to frame. Also have 12.8v at the starter grounding to the frame. All fuses to the lower left of panel are checking good. no lights, no beeps, no nothing at the panel. Where do I go next from here?

Thanks
Did you check battery voltage with switch on to see if it drops under load.
 

MilkyWay

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....I am getting no power to panel/console.

Battery had gone dead because I left it one for a couple days, stupid me. Put it on the charger and let it sit for a week after charging and still holding 12.8 v. Connected it and nothing. Have continuity from neg post to frame. Also have 12.8v at the starter grounding to the frame. All fuses to the lower left of panel are checking good. no lights, no beeps, no nothing at the panel. Where do I go next from here?

Thanks
Welcome to the forum. You would not believe how many folks think they have a good battery, cable contacts, switches and such, but don't know exactly how and what to test in order to be 100% certain of eliminating uncertainty and isolating a problem. I don't know if this will make sense but here goes. These few tests will only eliminate two variables; the battery and both battery-clamp connections.
1) You can not proceed without a voltmeter of some kind, imho. 1st test; put your negative test lead on the negative battery post. NOT on the clamp, but actually on the post. Do the same with the positive meter lead and the positive battery POST. Make sure you read a positive voltage. I have never reverse-charged a battery so I don't know what it would do/read.
2) RCW nailed it with his statement that a battery can have a shallow or surface charge but will fail under load. So, while holding the meter leads on the battery POSTS have a helper turn on the lights, mash the breaks, turn the radio up loud, turn the ac blower to full speed then try to start the motor. Point being that you want to load the battery as much as possible to make sure the meter does not drop below 10Vdc or so while engaging the starter. If the battery voltage drops to half then the battery is where you start. Re-charge or replace the battery. If the battery voltage does not change at all, then at least you have all but ruled out a bad battery. Not quite but almost.
3) Next, if battery voltage check is solid, then take your meter lead off the positive post and, with your negative lead still on the negative post, put your positive lead on the NGATIVE battery clamp; and yes, your meter leads will only be about a half inch from each other. What you are eliminating here is a bad connection between the post and the clamp. If you try to start the motor again and you get a voltage reading, then the contact is bad. Clean the clamp and screw then reattach. If you do not read a voltage, then the post-to-clamp contact is good. Now follow the same procedure and check the positive post to positive clamp contact. You have at least all but eliminated battery and cable clamps as the problem. That said, if you still get no starter activity, no lights will come on and all circuits are still dead, then we will have to look elsewhere.
Do these tests or not; it is easier to do when familiar with the voltmeter than it is to actually explain. Further more, continuity checks on these types of problem solving are not reliable because the amperage is what really tests a connection. If you have a weak contact between any two points and you try to push a heavy current through it, as is the case with a starter circuit, then you will generate a voltage drop where the weak contact opens up.
 
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dpcarson

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Lillington, NC
dpcarson, I was in your neck of the woods this morning on River Road at our deer lease.

Welcome to OTT, you will get some great advice here.

I live on HWY 55 near Old Stage road if you know where that is.

Far as I know you are the closest member on here near me, some in Raleigh area, Apex area, and Roberson county but no one I know of close as you.

My real name is Jay Johnson and I know a number of guys over you way used to hunt in Bunnlevel and played baseball against a number of guys who went to Western Harnett back in the 80's.
Good to meet you Jay. I am actually between Lillington and Angier on Neills Creek Road and about a mile from Harnett Central. Where I was born and raised basically. I know right where you live, for the most part anyway. Lee, down on old stage is the only person I have let touch a vehicle of mine for almost 20 years except for warranty work.
 

dpcarson

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Also check the slow blow fuse which should be located on outside of wire loom below where your muffler bolts to the exhaust manifold.
Hey WGator. IS that slow blow fuse a green rectangular cube looking thing. If so, I think I may have found my problem. Opening it up it looked semi corroded to my old eyes. (seriously need a magnifying glass) No continuity across the top contact from side to side. Pulling the fuse out of the socket and checking the voltage there, I am showing 12.4v coming into it. I think this may be the problem. Now, what is this thing called and where do I order one from?

Thanks. I think this is my next step.
 

MilkyWay

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... Also have 12.8v at the starter grounding to the frame....
Someone please correct me if I am missing a important technical point, but you should never have a voltage drop/reading from any ground point and the frame. If you are actually checking from starter 'ground' to the farm, err I mean frame, then I think you have found your problem.
 

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IS that slow blow fuse a green rectangular cube looking thing. Now, what is this thing called and where do I order one from?
If it's the one near the starter like I mentioned in post #3, it's called a slow blow fuse or fusible link, depending on your model.
You should be able to get one from your autoparts store, or from Kubota.
 

dpcarson

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Lillington, NC
If it's the one near the starter like I mentioned in post #3, it's called a slow blow fuse or fusible link, depending on your model.
You should be able to get one from your autoparts store, or from Kubota.
Bada Boom!! Thanks everybody. $4.16 at advance auto parts and I am back in business. Thanks for the help. But, now the damn rear PTO will not cut off! :eek::mad: Leaving that for another day. Bush hogged what needed to be bush hogged.
 

MilkyWay

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Bada Boom!! Thanks everybody. $4.16 at advance auto parts and I am back in business. Thanks for the help. But, now the damn rear PTO will not cut off! :eek::mad: Leaving that for another day. Bush hogged what needed to be bush hogged.
Your PTO may not actually have a problem. How much experience do you have with your machine? My L5450 PTO spins all the time until/unless it has considerable drag on it. It has done so since I bought it, used. Even with the bushhog connected and PTO out it will spin up till the blades sit on the ground. I never thought of it as a problem; but I don't know, maybe it isn't 'supposed' to do that.
 
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dpcarson

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L2900 gst
Jul 28, 2018
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Lillington, NC
I have had it for about a year but when I say it is turning, I can hear it when I left off the clutch. I grew up on a farm (of course we were all green and no orange) and I can definitely tell you this PTO is engaging. The lever is in the off position. I did adjust the cable and it may just need to be replaced at this point.

But, as of yesterday, new challenge with it. I can hear the PTO engaging in the transmission, but the rear shaft is no longer turning. Fluid level is in the middle of the glass. Any other ideas. Only thing I can think of at this point is to replace the cable to the rear PTO lever.
 

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Good to meet you Jay. I am actually between Lillington and Angier on Neills Creek Road and about a mile from Harnett Central. Where I was born and raised basically. I know right where you live, for the most part anyway. Lee, down on old stage is the only person I have let touch a vehicle of mine for almost 20 years except for warranty work.
How funny is that went to school with Lee, have a vehicle there now!

HC, played a many of softball games there, we played every Wednesday night there for years in the Emergency Services League.

We are not so distant neighbors.