Mx5800 filter & service ?'s

Flynlow3

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Can anyone give me the kubota parts number for filters for the mx5800 and the oil drain thread? I want to do a 50hr service soon and not where the tractor is. Also want to search for a magnetic drain plug.

Searched the WSM but was unsuccessful.

Thanks

Colemans equipment does not have the mx5800 listed. I found the air filter from messicks but want the hydolics hydrostat and oil filter.
 
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Can anyone give me the kubota parts number for filters for the mx5800 and the oil drain thread? I want to do a 50hr service soon and not where the tractor is. Also want to search for a magnetic drain plug.

Searched the WSM but was unsuccessful.

Thanks

Check Messicks and Colemans - both will have the filters - as for the drain plug - take some small magnets, place one ON the plug and several around the pan at the plug (assuming it isn't aluminum:)) - I have had a magnet on mine for the last 150 hours, and it says there !:p

https://www.amazon.com/DIYMAG-Power...e=UTF8&qid=1505062241&sr=8-4&keywords=magnets
 

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Mx5800 filter & service ?'s

Transmission HST (left side, no magnet):
HHTA0-59900

Hydraulics (right side, has magnet):
HHTA0-37710

Engine: HH164-32430
 
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Flynlow3

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Mattwithcats,

What advantages to that filter? Is it larger? I currently run a Mobil 1 filter. If the fram xg8a filter was better I would use it. Let me know your thoughts
 

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I personally would stay away from Fram Filters. Do your research on filters as I did. I switched all my automotive oil filters to Wix. When I used Frame the oil pressure in my truck always stayed at 40 no matter the rpm. Wix the oil pressure goes to up and down based on RPM. Fram had 13 pleats inside when I cut the filter open and Wix had 35. I know this is an older post but this was what I found. Good luck.
 

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I personally would stay away from Fram Filters. Do your research on filters as I did. I switched all my automotive oil filters to Wix. When I used Frame the oil pressure in my truck always stayed at 40 no matter the rpm. Wix the oil pressure goes to up and down based on RPM. Fram had 13 pleats inside when I cut the filter open and Wix had 35. I know this is an older post but this was what I found. Good luck.
Is more pleats necessarily better?
 

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Pleats are just part of a good filter. I was mistaken on my last post. Fram has 34 and Wix is over 60. But there is more to consider. How the bypass is built within the filter, the material used inside the filter, etc. I have been in service for the last 15 years and see various kinds of many filters. The internals range from cheap and brittle to expensive and durable. I don't know about you but I would rather spend a little more to protect the engine than spend less to see my filter fall apart and send the debris into the block. Here is a a link to one persons results. You can take it with a grain of salt. Just my opinion and everyone has one.

http://www.austincc.edu/wkibbe/oilfilterstudy.htm
 

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That guy did some research! It's a few years old now and one has to wonder how that industry changes as time goes by, but very interesting. Thanks for posting it.
 

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You are welcome and yes he did. Tons of You tube videos out there on filters and Oil. Checkout the video of comparing different oil brands. They tested 5 brands of oil coming out of a freezer to see how long it took to empty a bottle. The walmart brand Oil never came out of the bottle. Opened my eyes a lot!
 

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There are basically three levels of oil filters, the e-core, (cheapest), the middle grade, (Fram Toughguard, Purolator PureOne), and the upper (Fram ExtraGuard, Purolator Boss).

If your walking through a store, and spot a shelf of closeout filters, it helps to know what fits.

Just bagged a handful of ToughGuards for 85 cents each...

Combined with my 16 cents a quart Rotella T5, an oil change is under $2.00...
 

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Once the warranty is up, you might consider using a Fram 8a oil filter.
Going to have to measure carefully to see if it fits, oversized....
Same base and bypass pressure...

AutoZone makes the S8a for under $5 clams...
http://www.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-filter/stp-oil-filter/62844_0_0
Is it as good of filter as the Kubota filter? Is it a proven substitute? Will it perform in severe cold weather startups? Does Fram recommend and guarantee this filter for this application? How do you know? Is it because it screws on? How do you figure that a person could possibly save any money by using one of the poorest offerings of filter on the market????????? Why not just stick with the Kubota filter at service intervals?
 

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Whitetiger, some folks enjoy reinventing the wheel. Then they hope none of the spokes bend. And if they do bend, oh well, it's just a few thousand dollars to fix. The adventure seems to be worth the risk to them.

You guys keeping busy up there? Happy and Safe New Year.
 

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There are basically three levels of oil filters, the e-core, (cheapest), the middle grade, (Fram Toughguard, Purolator PureOne), and the upper (Fram ExtraGuard, Purolator Boss)
Why not just stick with the Kubota filter at service intervals?
Early on - I cross-referenced my BX oil filter with a Fram Extra Guard, but still got a new Kubota filter for my first oil change. Used Fram Extra Guard in my JD425 tractor for years.

Guessing the Fram was ~$7 at TSC, and Kubota filters are ~$10 at my dealership.

Had both in my hands side-by-side.

4 years later I don't remember the differences, but the Fram Extra Guard is still on the shelf in my garage, and I buy K-branded filters exclusively. I just remember thinking to myself "I AM NOT USING THAT ONE."

Just my experience.....
 
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Whitetiger, some folks enjoy reinventing the wheel. Then they hope none of the spokes bend. And if they do bend, oh well, it's just a few thousand dollars to fix. The adventure seems to be worth the risk to them.

Yea, I see it on a weekly biases, some peoples education costs a lot more than others, although it is good revenue for the company. :D

You guys keeping busy up there? Happy and Safe New Year.
Yes, we are busy with our Winter Service Special going on. Its surprising how much orange paint there is out there. :)

Sales has been pretty steady also, this month they sold 4 SVL,s, some L's,some M's, severial BX's, a lot of attachments, used exavator etc.

Safe and Happy New Year to you also!!
 

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Early on - I cross-referenced my BX oil filter with a Fram Extra Guard, but still got a new Kubota filter for my first oil change. Used Fram Extra Guard in my JD425 tractor for years.

Guessing the Fram was ~$7 at TSC, and Kubota filters are ~$10 at my dealership.

Had both in my hands side-by-side.

4 years later I don't remember the differences, but the Fram Extra Guard is still on the shelf in my garage, and I buy K-branded filters exclusively. I just remember thinking to myself "I AM NOT USING THAT ONE."

Just my experience.....
Good choice!!!!!!
 

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I surely agree with all of the above. I know for a couple dollars difference I will stick with Kubota filters and fluids!! Want to make sure my tractor lasts as long as I am here which I am sure it will.
 

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To my knowledge, an OEM kubota filter has never failed (again to my knowledge). I've never seen one die that wasn't caused by something else (field debris, sticks, trees, etc). John Deere at one point had a rash of failed oil filters. I don't know if JD makes their own, or repaints them with their name? Dunno. Kawasaki had a couple bad ones at one point. Kubota? Never-at least that I've seen.

However...

in walking around the junkards at one point, a buddy that was with me helping me pull an engine had noticed something. A large majority of cars that had "bad engine" written on the car had fram filters. I did not believe him, so after pulling that particular engine, we walked around all 94 acres and he was absolutely right. It was at that point that I decided that there must have been some correlation...maybe they are cheaper and people tend to buy cheap stuff. Maybe it was advertising campaigns. Or maybe coincidence. To this day, I've never used a fram filter on anything. And I have plenty of them to choose from. Normally just give them away to get 'em moved out of my way. They were leftover inventory when I worked for a J.D. dealer, they had about 200 Fram's for different applications (mostly American pickups).

They come prefilled with Kubota 15w40 in the engine and Super UDT2 in the transmission and front axle. This is standard across the entire product line with the exception of the gas engine mowers which are whatever the engine manufacturer wants. The ZG222/227 are 100% Kubota engines and are filled from factory with Kubota SAE30, FWIW. Kubota's oil is probably made by someone else to Kubota's strict standards that is likely not available for anyone else to re-brand. Same goes for a lot of manufacturers. Kawasaki is made by another company BUT it's different than you can buy for anything that the oil manufacturer sells with their own name on it. IF it was the same, they'd just sell it as the same thing you could buy elsewhere.