Sure am absolutely loving my new tractor but for the life of me I can not figure out why they would no put hydraulics in the rear of this tractor. I called my dealer and looks like its gonna cost me an extra $890 to have them install one. You would think that that would be a basic feature that they put on all tractors above 30hp or so. Oh well guess I will just have to shell out the extra coin to have one installed because the cutter, rake, and bailer all have to have one! Still thrilled with this machine and happy to be apart of this forum!!!
MX5100 Why No Rear Hydraulics??
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Great tractor, but looks like rear remotes are optional. I guess most folks will not need them, we have two remotes on the L3750 and have never used them.
Remotes are a good thing to get added when you are working a deal at time of purchase...
Remotes are a good thing to get added when you are working a deal at time of purchase...
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If you spring for one set you should go all the way and do two, that opens up a ton of options down the line.
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Not unusual at all. I don't think anything under an M offers standard remotes, I had three with Top and Tilt when I ordered mine, I would recommend a minimum of two and they are cheaper rolled into the purchase price.
You might check with Brian (MtnViewRanch) at Fit Rite for a non-OEM set.
You might check with Brian (MtnViewRanch) at Fit Rite for a non-OEM set.
Do you use a box blade or a rear blade? Top & tilt is a wonderful thing to have when grading. Actually some people have needed 6 to be able to operate all of their different hydraulic actuated functions.
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Getting extra remotes from the get go is a heck of a lot better choice, like getting a third remote for the loader to run a grapple or snow blade.
They will also up your tractors trade/sale desirability and value down the line too!
They will also up your tractors trade/sale desirability and value down the line too!
Imagine your car without air conditioning. After all, you don't really need AC.
Well the same goes for all these hydraulic features that one can have. You don't really need them, but they sure are nice to have besides that it is so easy to make adjustments that you do make those adjustments vs without the hydraulics most people end up with the "that's good enough syndrome".
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Why put something on that people don't want and charge them more for the equipment? It is about options, if you want it have it put on. Can't believe we are having this conversation.Imagine your car without air conditioning. After all, you don't really need AC.
Well the same goes for all these hydraulic features that one can have. You don't really need them, but they sure are nice to have besides that it is so easy to make adjustments that you do make those adjustments vs without the hydraulics most people end up with the "that's good enough syndrome".
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Hard to predict future needs, I never thought I would need more than one set of remotes, Top and Tilt or a box scraper with hydraulic scarifiers, well, I do now and hate to think of life without them. When I was younger, climbing on and off a tractor to hook up equipment or make adjustments was no big, times sure have changed.
Not saying I would not want them. Just think them being a option is the right choice. Making them standard equipment does not make it cheaper, just makes everyone have to buy it. At the time I bought mine, I did not want to spend the extra money. I thought 35k was enough at one time.
So do you think that AC should be an option in every car & truck? I have no doubt that it could save $1000-$1500. Everyone doe not need it, but it is there anyway.
Actually it is less money to put them on while the tractor is being built vs later on when things need to be disassembled to get them on. Much of the labor involved to put them on later simply is not required if installed from the beginning.
Yes I do think it should be an option, and A/C is an option. Might want to check into it. You can still buy a car without it.So do you think that AC should be an option in every car & truck? I have no doubt that it could save $1000-$1500. Everyone doe not need it, but it is there anyway.
Actually it is less money to put them on while the tractor is being built vs later on when things need to be disassembled to get them on. Much of the labor involved to put them on later simply is not required if installed from the beginning.
It is only less money if you want it, if you don't want it the tractor is more expensive with it. Heck you can install it yourself if you want.
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So if you go down to your local new car dealer, you are going to see many cars without air conditioning? I doubt it. I think what you may actually mean is that you can order a car without air conditioning and it will be less $$$. I know with my Ford F350 I had to custom order it to get it with a manual 4x4 shifter vs the std electronic knob on the dash. That lowered the cost of the truck $900. I didn't care about the savings, I just wanted a manual transfer case.
And then on that car without AC, see what it costs you to get it put on after the fact. It will not be the same cost as if the car was built with it.
Same thing applies to the tractors. Yes it costs more to have an option, no it does not cost the same to have that option installed when the machine is being built vs after the fact. And maybe yes you can put them on yourself, still takes time. There are many people that can not do it themselves.
So in the end you got what you wanted, no rear remotes because you bought a tractor that only offers them as an option. I come across people EVERYDAY that do not understand why they are not a std feature.
But I give up, everything should be an option.
You know that they build some at the factory with the rear remotes right? It is an option, but some of them come already installed. Just like A/C's some are built without them. Whey you special order one, it isn't like they build it just for you, it is already built you just get to buy it. Even if my tractor came with rear remotes I would not have any thing to hook to them. So for me it would have just been an extra expense that I would not be using.So if you go down to your local new car dealer, you are going to see many cars without air conditioning? I doubt it. I think what you may actually mean is that you can order a car without air conditioning and it will be less $$$. I know with my Ford F350 I had to custom order it to get it with a manual 4x4 shifter vs the std electronic knob on the dash. That lowered the cost of the truck $900. I didn't care about the savings, I just wanted a manual transfer case.
And then on that car without AC, see what it costs you to get it put on after the fact. It will not be the same cost as if the car was built with it.
Same thing applies to the tractors. Yes it costs more to have an option, no it does not cost the same to have that option installed when the machine is being built vs after the fact. And maybe yes you can put them on yourself, still takes time. There are many people that can not do it themselves.
So in the end you got what you wanted, no rear remotes because you bought a tractor that only offers them as an option. I come across people EVERYDAY that do not understand why they are not a std feature.
But I give up, everything should be an option.
Most vehicles come with A/C, just like most come with automatics. It isn't because it's cheaper to do that at the onset, it's because the vast majority want it that way. You have to special order to delete it, and it saves money, which is backwards of most special orders.
Options are good. I believe that I would use remotes on a tractor, but I appreciate the option because it gives me, not the dealer or manufacturer, to decide how much I pay. It also puts the responsibility on the purchaser, not the dealer or manufacturer, to do their homework and outfit the tractor the way they want it before paying. The option is there to get remotes for a reduced price, you just have to ask before you buy.
If it comes as a standard feature, you will pay for them. That's why they come standard on premium tractors- you've paid a premium price.
Options are good. I believe that I would use remotes on a tractor, but I appreciate the option because it gives me, not the dealer or manufacturer, to decide how much I pay. It also puts the responsibility on the purchaser, not the dealer or manufacturer, to do their homework and outfit the tractor the way they want it before paying. The option is there to get remotes for a reduced price, you just have to ask before you buy.
If it comes as a standard feature, you will pay for them. That's why they come standard on premium tractors- you've paid a premium price.
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I sure wish my premium L5740HSTC came standard with them, I sure paid plenty for it. The equivalent Kioti comes with them standard from what I can tell.