LandGlide app

[The Evil Twin]

I know there are other apps. My question is specifically for those that use, or have tried this one.
How far off have you found the property lines to be?
Old house- the fence is 1 foot inside the surveyed property line. This app shows it several feet over the line.
Current home- shows an adjoining lots drain field about 10' into our property.
I know where the pipes are set on the corners of our land. It's a rectangle. I know how to use a compass. I just don't trust it to walk 1000' through the woods and give a near accurate location.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

I know there are other apps. My question is specifically for those that use, or have tried this one.
How far off have you found the property lines to be?
Old house- the fence is 1 foot inside the surveyed property line. This app shows it several feet over the line.
Current home- shows an adjoining lots drain field about 10' into our property.
I know where the pipes are set on the corners of our land. It's a rectangle. I know how to use a compass. I just don't trust it to walk 1000' through the woods and give a near accurate location.

Most of those type apps use GIS survey (most you can find the source data if you look and most that have looked at them including huntx and some others all have same trouble…recent surveys not updated by locals. Unfortunately those (online map apps) are not the gospel, the actual survey is. Many local auditors use GIS map, which may be close but to a perfect match. Ours is off close to 20yrs from actual survey to what the map shows. (My east boundary is the township line as well which makes if funnier it’s off that much.)

Local auditors (at least mine) update them as new surveys are done but it’s not in real time. The property I just bought in 2017 finally got updated in the correct boundaries this year. Is that the worst case or best case comparable, I don’t know but mine was off quite a bit. Survey is the gospel, at least where I am at. (I think at best it is hit or miss if the lines are updated and close….my understanding from auditor is that the lines are stretched as approximately / close and overlayed on the Ariel map and then they update or increase accuracy as more recent surveys are completed, but there is a lag in time of course).

(Google maps uses same gis and is free…but sometimes you have to change a setting and or change the zoom to see the lines you are looking for.)

 

[The Evil Twin]

(Google maps uses same gis and is free…but sometimes you have to change a setting and or change the zoom to see the lines you are looking for.)

That's what I had used previously, but g00gle maps does not show property lines in satellite view in my area. At one point it did, but no longer.
Good thing the app has a free trial. I can get closer to the line using basic navigation skills and the headings on our Plat.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

That's what I had used previously, but g00gle maps does not show property lines in satellite view in my area. At one point it did, but no longer.
Good thing the app has a free trial. I can get closer to the line using basic navigation skills and the headings on our Plat.

I can get our GIS property line coordinates off of our county web site.

 

[The Evil Twin]

I can get our GIS property line coordinates off of our county web site.

Yeah, us too. I have 11x14 copies of the survey that make navigation that much easier. Sort of like taking Bastogne in WWII but with Pantera playing at 11 and a beer in the ATV cup holder.
OK, it's nothing like it . But with a magnetic north heading and the Plat it's easy enough. If I can do it underwater, on land shouldn't be hard.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

That's what I had used previously, but g00gle maps does not show property lines in satellite view in my area. At one point it did, but no longer.
Good thing the app has a free trial. I can get closer to the line using basic navigation skills and the headings on our Plat.

Do you know does the survey your auditor has on record include actual coordinates? And can you find one of your pins? If so a GPS may be your friend for actual. Or, If you can find two pins you can set a line and follow with gps. I am not sure that’s an option but some hand held gps I believe you could put in coordinates.

 

[mikester]

If these "apps" and cell phone GPS's were any good surveyors wouldn't spend huge coin on survey equipment.

At best you would be lucky to get within +-10 feet on a cell phone GPS.

You could roll your own survey tools and only spend thousands of dollars to get a little better accuracy. You won't be putting any surveyors out of business though.

 

[The Evil Twin]

Do you know does the survey your auditor has on record include actual coordinates? And can you find one of your pins? If so a GPS may be your friend for actual. Or, If you can find two pins you can set a line and follow with gps. I am not sure that’s an option but some hand held gps I believe you could put in coordinates.

When you say pin, do you mean the pipe driven into the ground? I know where 4 of them are. That's why I was saying I can just use my compass to find the property line. I just thought I could make it easier with the app.
I don't have a true GPS though. Just 2 phone based ones. They appear to be fairly accurate. At least judging by where I'm standing and where they show I am.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

When you say pin, do you mean the pipe driven into the ground? I know where 4 of them are. That's why I was saying I can just use my compass to find the property line. I just thought I could make it easier with the app.
I don't have a true GPS though. Just 2 phone based ones. They appear to be fairly accurate. At least judging by where I'm standing and where they show I am.

When I mentioned pin meant (assumed) you have actual survey pin (maybe your pipe/stake in a next to that…although some areas around us don’t always have pins their acreage is stated as + or -. The actual surveyor pin is your datum…your survey on record should indicate what your plot is oriented to/from I would think. Anyway if you have actual pin location, I think you could use a hand held held gps and get you pretty close. (Our surveyor had and used a hand held in conjunction with all his gadgets to find out first pin.)

If you have those pins (pipe) I am not much help probably. Good luck whatever trying to do.

 

[BBFarmer]

We're off by 10 yards on Landglide.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

When (if ?) you find the boundary bars, dig around them and bury a car rotor as a 'bullseye' . That way next time ,even a cheapy metal detector can FIND the bar.

 

[fried1765]

When (if ?) you find the boundary bars, dig around them and bury a car rotor as a 'bullseye' . That way next time ,even a cheapy metal detector can FIND the bar.

Do NOT "dig around", bury car rotors, or disturb survey markers, of ANY type!
Leave them alone!
They are official (on the ground) records!
A REGISTERED land surveyor will properly locate them, if need be!

 

[D2Cat]

Do NOT "dig around", bury car rotors, or disturb survey markers, of ANY type!
Leave them alone!
They are official (on the ground) records!
A LICENSED surveyor will locate them, if need be!

So a surveyor comes and pounds a wooden lath or a half inch rebar driven into the ground, or an orange tape wrapped around a post to mark the result of his work. Just how long do you really think any of those types of markers will last?

I paid for the survey and intend to find it years later. I get an axle from the salvage yard, remove the studs and pound the thing into the ground right where the stake was and make sure it's at finish grade. Might even paint it Kubota orange!! It will be there for several generations.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

I didn't say disturb the markers, just place a rotor around them.. Adding the mass of rotor allows for EASY location of the bars(we have both round bars(RB) and square bars( SB) for markers ).BTW bars here are 1" round or square, 5' long, well old ones were....

You must have better LICENSED surveyors than what's around me !
Five years ago, after watching the 'LICENSED surveyor' for over an HOUR scanning here,there, everywhere, I finally got off my tractor, introduced myself, asked what he was looking for, then showed him the SB (square bar) should be about 'here'. Sure enough his fancy high tech locator finally beeped,6 inches from where I dug my heel into the dirt.

Same thing last year different guy ,3-4 DAYS looking and he had a good survey ,though being in FEET ,he probably couldn't read it. Sad thing is, this time both SBs were VISIBLE........

Adding the rotor around the bars makes it QUICK and EASY to locate,though 'they' charge $175 / hour for locates here....seems time IS money.

 

[fried1765]

So a surveyor comes and pounds a wooden lath or a half inch rebar driven into the ground, or an orange tape wrapped around a post to mark the result of his work. Just how long do you really think any of those types of markers will last?

I paid for the survey and intend to find it years later. I get an axle from the salvage yard, remove the studs and pound the thing into the ground right where the stake was and make sure it's at finish grade. Might even paint it Kubota orange!! It will be there for several generations.

"It will be there for several generations", and is YOUR MARKER,.....it will be recognized as an unofficial property owner hack!
If permanent markers are needed, they must be IPs or CBs.or DHs.
Iron pins, or concrete bounds, or drill holes, are officially recognized markers.

 

[fried1765]

I didn't say disturb the markers, just place a rotor around them.. Adding the mass of rotor allows for EASY location of the bars(we have both round bars(RB) and square bars( SB) for markers ).BTW bars here are 1" round or square, 5' long, well old ones were....

You must have better LICENSED surveyors than what's around me !
Five years ago, after watching the 'LICENSED surveyor' for over an HOUR scanning here,there, everywhere, I finally got off my tractor, introduced myself, asked what he was looking for, then showed him the SB (square bar) should be about 'here'. Sure enough his fancy high tech locator finally beeped,6 inches from where I dug my heel into the dirt.

Same thing last year different guy ,3-4 DAYS looking and he had a good survey ,though being in FEET ,he probably couldn't read it. Sad thing is, this time both SBs were VISIBLE........

Adding the rotor around the bars makes it QUICK and EASY to locate,though 'they' charge $175 / hour for locates here....seems time IS money.

"digging" around the marker, leaves open the possibility of disturbing the marker!
There are good surveyors, and not so good surveyors.
Just like doctors/lawyers/auto mechanics,....etc.
Surveyors are "registered" to to "interpret" what they find on the ground!

A pipe or stake, as a "witness" marker is acceptable, but not so as to potentially disturb the soil/material around an officially placed marker.

 

[The Evil Twin]

Git has. Mm

When I mentioned pin meant (assumed) you have actual survey pin (maybe your pipe/stake in a next to that…although some areas around us don’t always have pins their acreage is stated as + or -. The actual surveyor pin is your datum…your survey on record should indicate what your plot is oriented to/from I would think. Anyway if you have actual pin location, I think you could use a hand held held gps and get you pretty close. (Our surveyor had and used a hand held in conjunction with all his gadgets to find out first pin.)

If you have those pins (pipe) I am not much help probably. Good luck whatever trying to do.

Gotcha. The term pin can be can be confused with Property Identification Number.
Since I know where most of those are, shooting it with my prismatic compass is easy. The original survey has the bearings and distance.
I was being lazy since some areas are heavily wooded.

 

[The Evil Twin]

When (if ?) you find the boundary bars, dig around them and bury a car rotor as a 'bullseye' . That way next time ,even a cheapy metal detector can FIND the bar.

I like the idea of a brake rotor!
I do know where most of the pipes are set. Went through that last winter. This winter the plan is to walk the lines and paint some trees. I'm cutting trails for MX bikes and don't want to overstep into another's property. We have also had hunters "mistakenly" checking for hunt sites.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

If you don't have brake rotors, cast iron barbell weights work very well. I used Real McCoys 10lb weights 30 years ago.

Find it impossible to believe that carefully removing a 1' circle , 1' deep about a 1" bar ,5' long could possibly disturb it.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

I like the idea of a brake rotor!
I do know where most of the pipes are set. Went through that last winter. This winter the plan is to walk the lines and paint some trees. I'm cutting trails for MX bikes and don't want to overstep into another's property. We have also had hunters "mistakenly" checking for hunt sites.

It’s always a good idea to mention what doing with the neighbor and ask if they like to walk the line with you to make sure no disagreements. As for your pins(pieces of metal set by surveyor) and depending on your terrain put a post / flag pole of sorts with a bright flag at each end might help with the sight line assuming nothing to crazy…sometime a a few feet of elevation end to end and some trees can make a challenge orienteering…any a piece of rebar hammered in a little and a length of PVC (slid over the rebar)with a fluorescent flag or tshirt taped to it can do wonders for your sight line (two way radio and binoculars and a second person can help…or even put a flag up in a tree that is visible on the line…sometimes one end needs offset just a foot or so and then other flag can be seen if a tree in way or something.) Again assuming you get along with neighbor, offer a walk of the line doesn’t hurt anything and may prevent some misunderstanding.