Long story short bought a 2019 L4701 from an individual with 94 hrs . I test drove it for about 10 min everything seemed fine. Get it delivered to my house and drove it 200 yards and it starts acting up. Let it sit sounds like crap. Run it to dealer hr later who says he thinks it might need a new engine. Oil was sparkly. Regular warranty is out but stil 4 years on power train. With 94hrs I would hope kabota takes care of it. Dealer says they send off samples etc. Will know in 2-3 weeks. Any recourse?
L4701 I am an idiot how screwed am I ?
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Hopefully if its engine you are covered. Make sure you have definitive proof of the failure and they don’t go throwing money at every little thing to “eliminate” possibilities.
https://kubotausa-cnt.sitefinity.cloud/docs/default-source/warranty/2019-kubota-owner's-warranty-information-guide.pdf?sfvrsn=9be978c2_2
https://kubotausa-cnt.sitefinity.cloud/docs/default-source/warranty/2019-kubota-owner's-warranty-information-guide.pdf?sfvrsn=9be978c2_2
The bad thing is literally owned it for 30 min before it craped out. Dealer said they thought it was a 50/50 shot. New engine is 14k they said. Fingers crossed Kabota does the right thing. 2 years old and 94hrs it sure is hell should be covered under power train warranty.
Could be like the recent post where the dealer that said it was the clutch except after replacing the clutch, the tractor still had issues moving. In other words, don’t trust the dealer.
I’ve only changed the oil once in my L2501, but the warning light came on when started. I’m assuming the L4701 has something similar.
It’s hard for me to believe that everything was fine until you restarted it. So, I’d have someone else take a look.
I’ve only changed the oil once in my L2501, but the warning light came on when started. I’m assuming the L4701 has something similar.It’s hard for me to believe that everything was fine until you restarted it. So, I’d have someone else take a look.
When you were looking at it did the owner disclose any "potential" issues ? Was it a bargain price wise?
I test drove it on Saturday it was delivered on Monday. Same hours on it. Only thing I can think is I really didn’t rev it up much on test drive. It’s was on a small lot. Needless to say I will never not take it to a dealer to look at before buying another. I’m no tractor expert either so it’s possible it was messed up and I didn’t know. Either way definitely paying the stupid tax for being an idiot.Could be like the recent post where the dealer that said it was the clutch except after replacing the clutch, the tractor still had issues moving. In other words, don’t trust the dealer.
It’s hard for me to believe that everything was fine until you restarted it. So, I’d have someone else take a look.
Owner seemed like a great guy said no issues he knew of I really don’t think he was trying to screw me. He returned my call and even called dealer I took it too but I guess who knows for sure. I like to think positive of people until proven otherwise.
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When you drove it 200 yards and it starting "acting up" what were the symptoms.? Any signs that the tractor has been rolled?
Even a clogged fuel filter could cause it to “act funny”, and that’s super easy to have happen.
Sending good vibes your way Brother! Let us know how you get on. If it’s a new engine and you’re on the hook for it - DO NOT READ THE SUICIDE THREAD in Off Topic!!
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I'd think there's krap in the fuel, and 20-20 hindsight '10 minutes' probably wasn't even enough time to get the tractor up to operating temperature, let alone test every function/feature of it.
94hrs on a 2 year old tractor isn't very much and fuel goes 'bad' after a month or so.
Sounds like it'll still start and run, so I'd drain tank, remove, CLEAN, purge the fuel lines, clean injectors,all new filters, add fresh fuel,prime and start it up. It might run 'rough' for 4-7 minutes, then clear up and be fine.
94hrs on a 2 year old tractor isn't very much and fuel goes 'bad' after a month or so.
Sounds like it'll still start and run, so I'd drain tank, remove, CLEAN, purge the fuel lines, clean injectors,all new filters, add fresh fuel,prime and start it up. It might run 'rough' for 4-7 minutes, then clear up and be fine.
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I would want more information from the dealer than just it needs a new engine. What exactly is wrong with it? What have they done to diagnose it? What does it need to fix it other than throwing a new engine in it? If they have not disassembled it, I would haul it to another dealer for another opinion before putting 14k into it.
All great opinions really appreciate it and yes I should learn to spell it right. LOL. Just frustrated and typing on phone. Also hindsight I should have put it through its paces for much longer, I just figured with such low hours what could be wrong. Lesson obviously learned. Yes waiting on Kubota to look at oil samples. I will check with dealership today to get more information for sure. They didn't say much just hey we had a tech look at it and it is not good. Oil looked like it had metal in it. We are shipping off samples but it might need a new engine. Caught them right before closing so will give them another call today. Thinking on it now when I had it for all of 30 min, it wanted to die at High RPMs. Like even going up a small hill was a strain on it. It went up in down the trailer no problem until after I ran it and it started sounding funny. Like it was missing. Then at one point started smoking white smoke really bad, so bad that when I was putting it on the trailer I couldn't see. When unloaded from trailer it didn't do that though. The smoke thing only happened one time. Hope someone learns from my mistake. Either run it good when test driving or better yet pay to take it to dealer so they can look at it. I am new to tractors obviously.
I hate that this happened to you. However, it isn't automatically Kubota's fault, or their responsibility. It was your job to check the tractor over well, and assure (as much as possible), that all was good. It may very well be a manufacturing issue. But, it could also be the fault of the previous owner. A lot can happen in 94 hours. You mentioned metal in the oil- time will tell where responsibility lies.
I am thinking, hoping, it is too soon to panic. As pointed out above, cleaning tank, fuel lines fuel filter are good first steps. At 94 hours maybe some of the metal they saw is leftover from manufacturing. A systematic approach to maintenance items might solve it. Dealer help is useful if they can read the diagnostic codes and help you make sure the emissions control system is not damaged. These are nice tractors, worth the hassle to get this one put right. Preferably without a new engine.