L2502 to L3902

[Rdrcr]

I disagree, obviously.

It's 10 more HP than he has now. That's significant. As noted, he's basically at my elevation, and all but tractor pull tractors are underpowered for their weight.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. But, the L3560 weighs at least 600lbs more than the L2502. In that case, the OP would be better off with an L3902 which basically weighs the same as his current tractor. The main issue with both the L3902 and L3560 is that they’re both powered by N/A diesels. If he’s looking for more performance at elevation, he’s much better off buying a turbocharged alternative.

Mike

 

[GrumpyFarmer]

Good day.

OP, have you asked dealer if they would bring you a demo unit (or two or whatever models considering) so that you can compare where unsatisfied with power delivery for your uses? (Or ask if they let you bring back and no charge and try another if unhappy with it…tell them your situation they may understand and accommodate…mine did at least. They should want you to be confident and happy in your purchase)

The way I read your mail it’s power, not weight, correct? I have a hilly property and IMO it’s hard to simulate driving up a hill vs a flat parking lot at a dealership. I’d want to try it if upgrading. YMMV.

I am not aware of a substitute for CCs. Could be time to pay the piper. But I’d sure want to check to make sure which will meet your expectation.

Send us some pics

Good luck.

 

[Tonka]

Oh boy .... this is going to be an interesting thread! Have you read through the thread by @Rdrcr regarding adding a turbo to an L2501?

Actually just started looking at the turbo kit. Don't have one for 2502 yet. Interesting idea.

 

[Tonka]

^^^^
This.

Nothing wrong with upgrading to an L3902 from a L2502. However, with both tractors being N/A, you will most likely be disappointed in performance.

I’m not sure the tasks you perform with your tractor and the tractor weight you require but, I would be looking at either a larger frame tractor like the premium Grand-L or MX series…..or….going smaller like the premium LX series which does have a turbo model(s).

We will be introducing a Turbo Kit for the L2502 in the future but, it will void your warranty. No way around that.

Mike

Actually just started looking at your turbo kit. The tractor is still under warranty so as I get closer to the end of warranty there might be a kit for the 2502? Any idea of time frame - this year or years away?

 

[Rdrcr]

Actually just started looking at your turbo kit. The tractor is still under warranty so as I get closer to the end of warranty there might be a kit for the 2502? Any idea of time frame - this year or years away?

We have lots of folks waiting for their warranties to expire before they purchase a Turbo Kit. We’re certainly okay with that. We’re probably 12-18 months away from releasing the L2502 Turbo Kit.

Mike

 

[PaulL]

L5060 has a turbo. And would be a great machine.

I get not wanting to void warranties, but.....once the machine is 2-3 years old, most of what could go wrong has gone wrong. And I'm pretty sure it only voids the bits of warranty that relate to things the turbo could plausibly impact. If putting more power into your machine breaks something, then waiting till after the warranty expires doesn't mean it won't break it.

If it were me, I'd do the turbo on the L2502 just because. I think it's lower cost, and if you're happy with the machine but just want more power, then that's exactly what it does. And a turbo is a good solution at altitude.

Now, Rdcr says he doesn't have the kit yet. But he has a kit for an L2501 and they're not that different. And last I heard, what he actually needed was someone with an L2502 that wanted to work with him on developing the kit. So.....if you're keen to get it, no doubt there's discussions to be had. Or just wait 18 months.

 

[jyoutz]

L5060 has a turbo. And would be a great machine.

I get not wanting to void warranties, but.....once the machine is 2-3 years old, most of what could go wrong has gone wrong. And I'm pretty sure it only voids the bits of warranty that relate to things the turbo could plausibly impact. If putting more power into your machine breaks something, then waiting till after the warranty expires doesn't mean it won't break it.

If it were me, I'd do the turbo on the L2502 just because. I think it's lower cost, and if you're happy with the machine but just want more power, then that's exactly what it does. And a turbo is a good solution at altitude.

Now, Rdcr says he doesn't have the kit yet. But he has a kit for an L2501 and they're not that different. And last I heard, what he actually needed was someone with an L2502 that wanted to work with him on developing the kit. So.....if you're keen to get it, no doubt there's discussions to be had. Or just wait 18 months.

A turbo just adds a bit more hp, but the machine is still the same weight and frame size. If the basic machine weight and lift capacity fits the OP’s needs, then it might be a consideration. But I would take heavier, longer wheelbase and more lift capacity over more hp any day.

 

[jimh406]

But, the L3560 weighs at least 600lbs more than the L2502. In that case, the OP would be better off with an L3902 which basically weighs the same as his current tractor.

Weight is just one variable. HP isn't equal to HP. If it was all that mattered, there wouldn't be multiple 25-26 HP tractors in the Kubota line. Torque and the HST transmission makes a difference as well.

What the L3560LE has is the option for a much more powerful loader that the L3902 can't match.

At the end of the day, OP has to decide what to tradeoff, and we are just throwing out options to consider.

 

[OntheRidge]

Just buy an L47 TLB

 

[Rdrcr]

A turbo just adds a bit more hp, but the machine is still the same weight and frame size. If the basic machine weight and lift capacity fits the OP’s needs, then it might be a consideration. But I would take heavier, longer wheelbase and more lift capacity over more hp any day.

Just a bit more power…

Stock - Kubota L2501 HST:
Engine Horsepower - 24.8 HP
Engine Torque - 70.2 LB-FT
PTO Horsepower - 19 HP

S2T Turbocharged - Kubota L2501 HST (as tested on the AW AG.2X PTO Dynamometer):
Engine Horsepower - 44.1 HP
Engine Torque - 109.8 LB-FT
PTO Horsepower - 35 HP

But, yes, I agree, tractor weight is the most important factor.

Mike