L2501 misfires almost dies when throttle opened up from idle

Linstrum

New member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
L3400HST with BH76 backhoe, L2501HST, B7100HST, B7100DT, all with fel's. Cat D4D
Sep 2, 2023
12
4
3
Alamogordo, New Mexico
L2501 HST with a little over 100 hours, all service performed according to the book - everything was done, nothing was skipped, and everything used was from the Kubota dealer. Tractor was ordered in October or November of 2022, and delivered to dealer in December, 2022. It is stored indoors in a locked garage. Fuel is kept indoors and purchased from a truck stop with high sales volume, no "farm fuel" or biodiesel used.

I already read the L2501 thread started by chelan41 on April 21, 2019, where those symptoms are not the same.

After normal operating for several minutes, or well over an hour, under good load doing work like pulling the box scraper that is almost full, or running the rear-mounted mower in tall weeds that make the engine work, when the engine is idled-down, it idles perfectly. No misfiring at all. After a few minutes, when the throttle is opened up to go back to work, the engine immediately starts to misfire on all cylinders, and almost stops running for maybe 15 seconds. Sometimes there are a few puffs of white smoke, but otherwise the exhaust is clear. After about 15 seconds of misfiring, the engine picks up and runs normally again with total throttle response, as it should be.

The misfiring happens every time after letting the engine idle for a few minutes, maybe a bit longer. As already stated above, the engine idles without any misfiring or even a hint of misfiring, but as soon as the throttle lever is pulled back to increase engine rpm, the misfiring begins and the engine almost stops running, with rpm dropping very low. After about 15 seconds, sometimes longer, the misfiring ends, and the engine begins running normally and the rpm picks up according to throttle position. Once the misfiring is over and the engine once again is running normally, the engine delivers full power and the tractor will operate the box scraper about half full of dirt for 100 yards down the shoulder of the road, or continue mowing weeds. From that, I doubt very much that it is a plugged fuel filter or other lack of fuel problem. The Kubota dealer insisted it was a plugged fuel filter, but the evidence is firmly against that, since the engine delivers full power that requires adequate fuel.

So, what is going on with all these mysterious problems with L2501 engines not running right? My tractor runs great under load at high rpm when fuel consumption is highest, its problem is it runs great at idle rpm but almost dies WHEN the throttle is opened up to increase rpm from idle. This problem showed up after the engine was broken-in enough to start working the tractor with a good load on it. So, the problem may have been there all along, but didn't appear until the engine could be worked with a good load on it.
 

Sidekick

Well-known member

Equipment
Kioti CK2620SE cab, RTV-X, BX2360, Z726XKW-3-60
Jul 29, 2023
586
571
93
N.Y,
Sounds like it may be warranty question for your dealer.
 

GreensvilleJay

Well-known member

Equipment
BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
Apr 2, 2019
11,652
5,042
113
Greensville,Ontario,Canada
Hopefully someone here has seen this 'interesting' situation before.
I'm wondering if the lift pump is either defective of not connected properly ?
I KNOW for a fact that my BX23S ran FINE without it, as I spotted it disconnected while cleaning underneath. Have NO idea how long it wasn't plugged in,though filters were changed 50-70 hours previously.

Also, you don't have a lot of hours on that tractor, perhaps there's 'junk ' in the tank ? I go through at least 10l of diesel a week and have a mason jar filter .
 

PoTreeBoy

Well-known member
Lifetime Member

Equipment
L35 Ford 3930
Mar 24, 2020
2,828
1,544
113
WestTn/NoMs
I'm with @Sidekick. Just to be sure, check the fuel bowl for water and look around the governor area for any obvious damage.
 

Hydro

New member

Equipment
ZD21
Sep 3, 2024
18
5
3
Southern Indiana
Post a video to youtube , then post the link here

I am not familiar with a L2501 , but as you describe the symptoms , sounds like a timing problem rather than fuel . Really would depend on the type of emission system used on that engine
 

whitetiger

Moderator
Staff member

Equipment
Kubota tech..BX2370, RCK60, B7100HST, RTV900 w plow, Ford 1100 FWA
Nov 20, 2011
2,938
1,398
113
Kansas City, KS
under load at high rpm when fuel consumption is highest,
Fuel demand is the highest during acceleration, the governor is wide open.
You have a fuel supply problem from the tank, through the filter, or a mechanical fuel lift pump failure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 users

number two

Active member

Equipment
B3030HSDC L2501HST
Mar 26, 2021
350
162
43
Northern Lower Michigan
Seems like I recall hearing about lift pump problems on the L2501 tractors.
Possibly a dealer question?
There may be an issue!
Check it out.
Good Luck!
 

whitetiger

Moderator
Staff member

Equipment
Kubota tech..BX2370, RCK60, B7100HST, RTV900 w plow, Ford 1100 FWA
Nov 20, 2011
2,938
1,398
113
Kansas City, KS
I recall hearing about lift pump problems on the L2501 tractors.
It is the same lift pump used on about 70 models, almost all Lxx00 and Lxx40 series tractors, plus many industrial engines.
 
  • Love
Reactions: 1 user

Nicfin36

Well-known member

Equipment
L2501 HST, BH77 Backhoe, SSQA Loader ZD1011 Mower
Jun 19, 2019
1,016
466
83
Decatur, AL
I just posted this on another thread. My L2501 has about 100 hours and started running rough last week while tilling a field. The engine finally quit and I wondered if it were a lift pump issue like I had read about. I unscrewed the fuel bowl slightly to see it fill up, so I was thinking maybe not a fuel issue. I finally unscrewed the bowl completely to see some crud on top of the filter. The filter looked good viewing through the plastic bowl. I then pulled the fuel line at the filter bowl from the tank and fuel ran out and stopped. It was obstructed. Turns out I had fuel microbes and I had to drain the tank. I am treating it with Bio Kleen and hopefully that is all I will have to do. It might be worth looking into.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: 1 users