Kubota M4500dt stuck in gear will not move

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
I have a Kubota m4500dt. I was driving it into the pasture today when some of my animals ran out In front of me. I hit the clutch to stop the tractor. It stopped like always. When I let of the clutch and pressed the gas it bogged down and died. I tried over and over to get moving, but the tractor will not move and acts as if it was under a mega load and dies if I keep pressing the gas. High low shifts fine. I was able to try each gear, but failed to move anywhere. Then it finally stuck in 3rd gear and I can't move the shifter out of gear. It is truly stuck in 3rd and again when trying to go the tractor just bogs down and dies. If I keep the clutch depressed the motor runs fine as it should. It's only when letting the clutch out that this happens. Please help!
 

Bulldog

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M 9000 DTC, L 3000 DT
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We had a old 656 IH that if you weren't careful it would get stuck between 2 gears. It acted just like what you describe.
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
It's definitely in gear and will not budge out of it. I was moving gears ok for a minute or two and trying each gear and the tractor would not move. It finally stuck in 3rd and still won't budge.
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
I will also add that I haves used this tractor for about 100 hrs with zero problems since purchase. Then I changed the hydraulic/ transmission fluid just the other day. I used it a couple times after the change, but probably only for 30 minutes total max. I put A John Deere approved 303 fluid in it as my manual says it's ok to use.
 

olthumpa

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I do not know your particular tractor, but here are some suggestions.
Have you tried letting the clutch in reverse? Did it die?
Does it die as you are letting the clutch out - before it is completely out or after it is completely out? If it dies while you are letting it out check all of the safety switches. If you can bypass all of them I would start by doing that first. If the tractor runs as it should, start checking all the switches until you find the one or ones that are malfunction. If it is not the switches, others on here with knowledge of your particular tractor should be able to help you.

As for being stuck in third gear, I have had this problem occasionally in every gear. What works for me is to put it in reverse and let the clutch out a little then depress the clutch while putting gentle pressure on the shift and it easily slides into neutral.

Hope some of this at least gets you started in the right direction.
 

Tx Jim

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Try jacking up one rear wheel then try to shift trans into neutral. Does your tractor have sync-shuttle?
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
I was wondering about the brake myself. It acts as if I was trying to start in too high of a gear and I was pulling a heavy load. As soon as the clutch is fully released it dies. This also exactly what happens if I forget to release the brake handle. However, the handle is released and I e never had a problem with a stuck shifter. If it's a stuck brake how on earth to I get it unstuck? As for putting it in reverse to get the shifter unstuck it's stuck in 3rd so I can't put it in reverse. This is a pretty good sized tractor. I'm not sure I have a jack that will lift it. I did not have it in 4x4 while I was driving out to the pasture. However, my wife was standing on that side when I stopped and could have bumped one of the levers. I checked all of them and they work fine including the pto.
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
I just checked and I can move the tractor some. The wheels don't seem to be locked. When it first happened I was also able to depress the clutch and roll backwards down a slight slope. I forgot about that. Then I was trying every gear to get moving again with the same result of it dying when I fully let the clutch out. The engine bogs as if under pressure trying to pull something or trying to go with the brake on. Then it finally just stuck in or around 3 rd and it won't budge out.
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
Another thing is I can start it without pushing in the clutch, but I hear some noise not bad, but definitely noise. When I depress the clutch the noise clears up. When trying to pull the shifter down I can feel the gears turning or rubbing through the shifter stick. It seems to have too much play upwards to actually be all the way in gear, but it will not budge down, left or right out of the position it's in. This was an after the fact problem that's not helping for sure. So since it starts and I can hear gears kinda rubbing inside, but not grinding I'm assuming it's between gears somehow. The main problem of bogging down and dying happened in every gear right before this so I think I have two separate issues.
 

olthumpa

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. . . As for putting it in reverse to get the shifter unstuck it's stuck in 3rd so I can't put it in reverse. . . .
Sorry, I assumed that yours had a shuttle shift for forward and reverse.
 

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Diydave

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Oct 31, 2013
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Try shifting the hi-lo into neutral, then go back to trying to knock it out of 3rd. If you can't get it to move, you might have to pop the top (shifter plate off), for a quick look at both the gears, and the shifter gate, to see if it is in 2 gears, or has a damaged rail or fork...:D:D
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
I'm gonna pull off the cover plate and take pics. Maybe y'all will see something that way and be able to help better. I've never messed with a tractor transmission so I probably won't know what I need to move around. Thanks.
 

Jckruid

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M4500DT
Oct 24, 2015
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Leavenworth, KS
From the first pic, do I need to align the one that's not in the middle with the other two? If so it doesn't move by hand. What say the smart guys? Please help