Kubota KX040-4 DPF Delete

Pistol817

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The only post I could find on this were a few years old.

Any new options for DPF deletes on a 2017 KX040-4?

Has anyone used 4DPF.com?

Thanks!!
 

GreensvilleJay

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If you read the posts, then you KNOW it's illegal in the USA to 'modify' the machine, so tread lightly !
The biggest issue with it though would be reprogramming the computer.
 

McMXi

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The only post I could find on this were a few years old.

Any new options for DPF deletes on a 2017 KX040-4?

Has anyone used 4DPF.com?

Thanks!!
Check out Reimer Tuning and TM AG Tuning (both in Canada). They offer programmers and/or bench reflashes but they're not cheap. That said, still cheaper than adding a turbo kit to an L2501 though! 😂
 

GreensvilleJay

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His sidebar says 'TX', so I assume TeXas ???

NOTHING is cheap in Canada,eh ! Might get pricier next month.....not
 

McMXi

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His sidebar says 'TX', so I assume TeXas ???

NOTHING is cheap in Canada,eh ! Might get pricier next month.....not
TM AG Tuning has an "office" in TX, and if the ECU needs to be bench reflashed (lifetime warranty) it can be shipped there rather than over the border. A programmer would need to cross the border though and if available that's the way to go since it's a lot easier to work with.
 

Greg2

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If you read the posts, then you KNOW it's illegal in the USA to 'modify' the machine, so tread lightly !
The biggest issue with it though would be reprogramming the computer.
Just a week or so I watched [and seen] a few UTube videos about the trucking industry, and they were all happy that the EPA is backing down on DEF fluid and most diesel particulate controls. Now I did not search for any confirmation as to how true these statements were, but hey-it was on UTube so it must be legit, right? It would be nice to get rid of the regens and possible expense on our tractors. One can only hope.
 

GreensvilleJay

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Saw the 'math' and the energy to convert Nat Gas into 1 US gallon of DEF, will heat my house and cook my food and heat my water for a YEAR !!! Truly mindblowing !!
 

North Idaho Wolfman

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Saw the 'math' and the energy to convert Nat Gas into 1 US gallon of DEF, will heat my house and cook my food and heat my water for a YEAR !!! Truly mindblowing !!
What are you talking about?????


Natural gas cannot be converted directly into diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). However, natural gas can be converted into diesel fuel, which can then be used to power vehicles that use diesel engines.

Explanation
  • Natural gas to diesel fuel
    Natural gas can be converted into diesel fuel through a process called gas-to-liquid (GTL). GTL uses the Fischer-Tropsch chemical conversion process to convert natural gas into synthetic crude oil, which is then refined into diesel fuel.

  • Diesel exhaust fluid (DEF)
    DEF is made from urea, which is produced from ammonia and carbon dioxide. DEF must meet strict quality standards, including a urea concentration of 32.5%.
 

GreensvilleJay

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Read an article(linked from a 'big rig' forum ) that explained the process of making DEF and it followed the process which starts with natural gas and through several processes ultimately jugs of DEF are sold to the public. It requires an obscene amount of natural gas to make DEF.THAT was an eye opener along with that overall DEF isn't the 'miracle' that was promised by 'them'.
 

ruger1980

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What are you talking about?????


Natural gas cannot be converted directly into diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). However, natural gas can be converted into diesel fuel, which can then be used to power vehicles that use diesel engines.

Explanation
  • Natural gas to diesel fuel
    Natural gas can be converted into diesel fuel through a process called gas-to-liquid (GTL). GTL uses the Fischer-Tropsch chemical conversion process to convert natural gas into synthetic crude oil, which is then refined into diesel fuel.

  • Diesel exhaust fluid (DEF)
    DEF is made from urea, which is produced from ammonia and carbon dioxide. DEF must meet strict quality standards, including a urea concentration of 32.5%.
Urea is made chiefly from natural gas or coal through a catalytic process
 

North Idaho Wolfman

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These are 2 different "answers" on this....
You just need to ask the "right" questions to get the "right answer"

My first question was a direct response to Greenvillejay's statement.

convert Nat Gas into 1 US gallon of DEF
Can natural gas be converted into DEF?
Answer:


Natural gas cannot be converted directly into diesel exhaust fluid (DEF). However, natural gas can be converted into diesel fuel, which can then be used to power vehicles that use diesel engines.

Explanation
  • Natural gas to diesel fuel
    Natural gas can be converted into diesel fuel through a process called gas-to-liquid (GTL). GTL uses the Fischer-Tropsch chemical conversion process to convert natural gas into synthetic crude oil, which is then refined into diesel fuel.

  • Diesel exhaust fluid (DEF)
    DEF is made from urea, which is produced from ammonia and carbon dioxide. DEF must meet strict quality standards, including a urea concentration of 32.5%.
My second question is:
Is DEF made from natural gas
Answer:


Yes, Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) is primarily made from natural gas, as the key ingredient in DEF, urea, is typically derived from natural gas through a chemical process.

Explanation:
  • Urea is the key component: DEF is a solution composed of 32.5% urea and 67.5% deionized water.

  • Urea from natural gas: The urea used in DEF is usually synthesized from natural gas through a chemical reaction involving ammonia and carbon dioxide.