HST & Hydraulic Filter Newbie Question

morganc

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Hi - just getting on my 50hr maintenance on my 3240HST and need to do these filters. Can I get away with pulling the filters and quickly installing the new ones? Or will I watch an expensive oil lake quickly grow under the tractor. Catch it in a clean bucket and pour it back in?

Also, the HST filter looks like it needs some sort of spiffy tool...is there a trick to this one?

Just like to get some info before I make a mess...

Thanks,

Morgan
 

kuboman

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You will lose what is in the filter and filter housing but that is all. I changed mine on the 5740 which is the same as yours and that is all i lost.
 

TripleR

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What kuboman said, we used this method on our L30 and L40, lost about a quart in the filter. There are several good filter wrenches out there, we use a finger type with a ratchet, filter is on there pretty tight.

You can check Amazon, Grainger, Sears etc.
 

ItBmine

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You lost me here?? Why would you be putting spilt oil back in?? Wouldn't you have it drained before pulling the filters?

What am I missing?
 

GWD

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You lost me here?? Why would you be putting spilt oil back in?? Wouldn't you have it drained before pulling the filters?

What am I missing?
Uh, oh...here we go.

Modern recommendations are to change the filter only at 50 hours. The reason is up for speculation.

My OPINION is to change the oil, too. Being a cheapskate is the path to sleepness nights and a depleted checking account in my OPINION.

Other folks have other views.
 

tonyvkubota

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Hi - just getting on my 50hr maintenance on my 3240HST and need to do these filters. Can I get away with pulling the filters and quickly installing the new ones? Or will I watch an expensive oil lake quickly grow under the tractor. Catch it in a clean bucket and pour it back in?

Also, the HST filter looks like it needs some sort of spiffy tool...is there a trick to this one?

Just like to get some info before I make a mess...

Thanks,

Morgan

OK, here is what happen to this newbie....when I changed the hydraulics filters at 50 hours on my new B3200. A word of caution was given to me from this forum , and thank God I listen and was prepared. Even the dealer gave me bum info, he said " o a little oil will come out and have clean pan and put it back in ".
OK on my B3200hst when I took off the right side hyd. filter oil came pouring out like a geyser. Lucky I had a very large bowl under it , I quickly got on the new filter. The bowl had 3 quarts in it. The left side filter oil dribbled out , no problem. When I look at the oil, I could not bring myself to putting that oil back in with new filters. You spend all this money on a great tractor , to me why start being cheap. Not to mention this oil ran down over mud on frame before hitting the pan. I took all pressure off the fel and still all this oil came out. But thanks to the forum I had good info and was prepared. If all models do the same I cannot say. So with that I say be prepared , hope for best , and expect the worse . My MHO , chuck old oil and top off with new.
 
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TripleR

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Yeah, there is always a debate on replacing fluid at 50 or just filters; always will be. Do what makes you comfortable. Times change as do maintenance recommendations. I use to change engine oil every three thousand miles then every five thousand, now my new vehicle says ten thousand.
 

Stubbyie

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Different production runs of the same model machine may or may not have internal check valves to retain fluid when changing filters.

Be prepared to catch a large quantity of fluid fast.

Several scrupulously clean 5-gal buckets and a helper will be handy.

No reason captured fluid can't be reused if appropriate care is taken in a clean work setting.

For filter get a set of the ChannelLock PVC/Filter pliers in the size (3 choices) to fit your filter(s). Best tool for filters I've used. New filters installed DRY by factory will be extremely tight. Repeat, extremely tight.

Please post back your experiences so we may all learn.
 

ItBmine

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Oh OK, thanks. I didn't realize the book says just filters at 50 hours.
Me, I'll be dumping the oil. Cheap compared to what I paid for the tractor.

Although I can always catch that oil and pour it into my old homemade wood splitter that leaks like crazy, lol.
 

Burt

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Oh OK, thanks. I didn't realize the book says just filters at 50 hours.
Me, I'll be dumping the oil. Cheap compared to what I paid for the tractor.

Although I can always catch that oil and pour it into my old homemade wood splitter that leaks like crazy, lol.
ItBmine,

Our L3700SU (read L3800) had a magnetic ring on the filters. It had some small particles of metal on it. I'd be spooked putting in that old oil on the first change out. Best to invest in the new oil and do it right.

The magnetic ring is now on my shop door with a picture of a Grand kid in the middle.

Burt
 

ItBmine

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ItBmine,

Our L3700SU (read L3800) had a magnetic ring on the filters. It had some small particles of metal on it. I'd be spooked putting in that old oil on the first change out. Best to invest in the new oil and do it right.

The magnetic ring is now on my shop door with a picture of a Grand kid in the middle.

Burt
Absolutely. I always change the oil with filters. I was just saying I can use the old hydro fluid in my wood splitter.....it's on it's last legs anyway.
I can't believe Kubota says to keep the break-in fluid in and just change filters.
 

morganc

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Thanks for all the info. I'll probably have some time this week to get 'er done and report back.
 

ItBmine

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I've posted this in my service thread, but the Kubota Workshop Manual contradicts the owners manual and says transmission/hydraulic oil MUST be changed at 50 hours.
 

hiprollc

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As a new member, my 2 cents worth. For my L3700SU hydrostatic, I took a cautious approach. The manual seems contradictory to what is actually required. In one place, it says to drain the fluid before changing the filters, but it only pulls the front two plugs and doesn't drain the rear gear sections. For the 400 hour service, it says to drain at all four plugs, so that is what I believe is the intent - to replace the fluid at 400 hours.

Now, back to your initial question. I began by cleaning around the smaller hydraulic (lift) filter (to minimize falling dirt and reducing the possibility of getting it on the new filter), placed a clean pan underneath, and slowly loosened the old filter to just see how much fluid came out. Some fluid drained, but probably not much more than the volume of the filter itself. I already had my new filter ready to go on; about half full of new fluid and a good coating on the top flat ring seal. As the draining stream slowed, I completely pulled the old filter off and installed the new one. Very simple and easy change out.

For the tranny suction filter (larger of the two), I did the same thing. However, as the new filter was loosened, a considerable stream of fluid drained out, so I let it drain until the stream was substantially reduced. Like before, I had the new filter about half full and the sealing ring oiled up. For this filter, after about 3 gallons had drained, the stream was small enough that I was confident that I could get the new filter on, so I quickly continued the removal of the old and immediately replaced with a new filter. Again, other than being a little messy, very easy to do.

With both filters tightened per the manual (filter/ring touching, one full rotation with filter wrench), and probably about 3 and a half gallons of fluid drained, I could - for the first time - actually see that the fluid level was low in my side-mounted sight glass. I poured about 3 gallons from my 5-gallon new fluid into a smaller and more easily handled container and returned the fluid level until I could easily see it in the sight glass. I then cranked the tractor, lifting the loader and 3PH and moving in forward and reverse to cycle the fluid and ensure the new filters were also filled, and then added about another 1/2 gallon to bring it back up to just above the middle of the sight glass. Easy change out, with just under half new fluid in the tractor. The old fluid will get strained and re-used elsewhere. Although my fluid was clean enough to re-use, the small expense for replacing it with new is nothing more than piece of mind for me.
 

New Pursuits

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I'm getting ready to perform the 50 hour service on my B3200 HST and my manual indicates only to replace the transmission oil filter, not the hydraulic oil filter. The manual shows the total fluid change needing to take place for the first time at 400 hrs.

I've got two filters in the back, one apparently is the hydraulic (right side) while the other is the transmission (left side). The 50 hour service shows only the one transmission filter needing to be changed.

I called my area Kubota service guy to ask how much fluid I would lose when I followed the manual and removed the drain plugs at the bottom of the rear transmission case first. He said he wouldn't remove the plugs if he were just changing out the filter.

Gotta wonder about the wisdom of not following the manual, but wouldn't the filter be catching any grit and metal particles?
 

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If your not changing the fluid the only reason to drain it would be so that it doesn't end up on the floor when you change the filter. ;)