Here we go kids

[D2Cat]

I looked for a date on this but did not find it.

 

[MNVikingsGuy]

Just a thought to promote critical thinking: If the stated goal is to save lives, why not lower the speed limit on highways to 25mph?

Answer: this is not about saving lives

Since we are both proponents of critical thinking, I assume we both agree that your comment is a classic "red herring fallacy" and not at all persuasive or responsive to the topic.

 

[MNVikingsGuy]

I looked for a date on this but did not find it.

2013, and this is worth a read:

Was the NRA Founded to Protect Black People from the Ku Klux Klan?

Revisionist accounts of the origin of the National Rifle Association say it was formed to help freed slaves defend themselves against racist attacks after the Civil War.

www.snopes.com

 

[cmorningstar01]

2013, and this is worth a read:

Was the NRA Founded to Protect Black People from the Ku Klux Klan?

Revisionist accounts of the origin of the National Rifle Association say it was formed to help freed slaves defend themselves against racist attacks after the Civil War.

www.snopes.com

Snopes has partnered with facebook, Snopes is not the arbiter of truths, they are a biased group with an agenda

 

[MNVikingsGuy]

Snopes has partnered with facebook, Snopes is not the arbiter of truths, they are a biased group with an agenda

Do you have actual counter-evidence to offer, or are you just resting on unsupported conspiracy accusations? I am concerned Yooper might object to such a non-rigorous response

 

[jimh406]

Do you have actual counter-evidence to offer, or are you just resting on unsupported conspiracy accusations? I am concerned Yooper might object to such a non-rigorous response

I think the point is that the truth isn’t accepted as truth after catching the fact checkers time and time again in lies. If people don’t realize there are biases in play, they simply are ignoring the obvious.

That’s ok, btw. Just don’t think the rest of population will agree. The cat is out of the bag and scratching more and more people to wake them up.

 

[D2Cat]

Anyone can do some searching about Snopes and find they have a left leaning. Here's a link that specifically asked questions and reports their answers.

The Daily Mail Snopes Story And Fact Checking The Fact Checkers

Pulling back the curtain, we find that the fact checkers may not be as open and transparent as we thought

www.forbes.com

 

[cmorningstar01]

Do you have actual counter-evidence to offer, or are you just resting on unsupported conspiracy accusations? I am concerned Yooper might object to such a non-rigorous response

Who fact checks the fact checkers

My fact checking is just as valid as Snopes

How many times were we told that there was russian collusion only to find out it was a fabricated story which was leaked and then they used the leaks to verify it and then get FISA warrants based upon lies

 

[Bmyers]

IF you go to the NRA website, they have a history tab on their page. The short version, it was formed by former military leaders to improve the quality of shooting because when the Civil War broke out many of the northerners had started moving to the cities and didn't have the shooting skills that they still had in more rural areas. So, they developed the NRA to help improve the quality of the shooters.

As far as Snopes and many other 'fact checking' places, they provide the information with their spin on it. Both liberal and conservative sides do this. Thankfully, the good Lord has provide us all with this hat holder that allows us to read through and decide what we should and shouldn't believe. It may involve more work on our part, but many times the reward is worth the work.

 

[MNVikingsGuy]

Who fact checks the fact checkers

My fact checking is just as valid as Snopes

How many times were we told that there was russian collusion only to find out it was a fabricated story which was leaked and then they used the leaks to verify it and then get FISA warrants based upon lies

Still waiting for any evidence for the proposition the NRA was founded to protect freed slaves. I have been a member for 30 years and the snopes assessment is far closer to the story the NRA itself has been telling me all this time. Not liking mainstream media is not proof of the proposition. Yooper must be saddened by this continued lack of critical thinking.

 

[Yooper]

Still waiting for any evidence for the proposition the NRA was founded to protect freed slaves. I have been a member for 30 years and the snopes assessment is far closer to the story the NRA itself has been telling me all this time. Not liking mainstream media is not proof of the proposition. Yooper must be saddened by this continued lack of critical thinking.

Sheesh! Let it go.

 

[sheepfarmer]

Anyone can do some searching about Snopes and find they have a left leaning. Here's a link that specifically asked questions and reports their answers.

The Daily Mail Snopes Story And Fact Checking The Fact Checkers

Pulling back the curtain, we find that the fact checkers may not be as open and transparent as we thought

www.forbes.com

It is no doubt a problem if you can't locate the original sources to check something yourself. Forbes and the Daily Mail are right leaning, and not exactly truthful.

 

[MNVikingsGuy]

It is no doubt a problem if you can't locate the original sources to check something yourself. Forbes and the Daily Mail are right leaning, and not exactly truthful.

We are in a mess. I know the guys behind this "neutral" site that tries to provide balanced news by calling out starting biases and encouraging the reading both sides and coming to one's own conclusion. While it is a bipartisan effort, it did have roots in a very slightly right-of-center starting point.

Media Bias

Everyone is biased — and that’s okay. But hidden media bias misleads, manipulates and divides us. AllSides makes media bias transparent, helping you to easily identify different perspectives so you can get the full picture and think for yourself.

www.allsides.com

 

[sheepfarmer]

We are in a mess. I know the guys behind this "neutral" site that tries to provide balanced news by calling out starting biases and encouraging the reading both sides and coming to one's own conclusion. While it is a bipartisan effort, it did have roots in a very slightly right-of-center starting point.

Media Bias

Everyone is biased — and that’s okay. But hidden media bias misleads, manipulates and divides us. AllSides makes media bias transparent, helping you to easily identify different perspectives so you can get the full picture and think for yourself.

www.allsides.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/new-york-post-kamala-harris-correction-migrant-book/2021/04/27/ec297ac6-a769-11eb-bca5-048b2759a489_story.html

Here is another example of false or misleading reporting, described by left leaning Washington Post but likely to be accurate. It is safe to say if some so called piece of journalism gets your blood pressure up, it may not be entirely true. Check! The above brouhaha was based on one donated book seen on one kids bunk. Donor unknown.

 

[random]

One thing about Snopes - it used to have a section of fake "fact-checks" which it used to make the point that you shouldn't even accept what Snopes said.

To the best of my knowledge, it no longer has that.

 

[skeets]

As I recall from one of the classes I took at Pitt, most people read the leading headline and about of the first paragraph, and form an opinion just from that

 

[sheepfarmer]

As I recall from one of the classes I took at Pitt, most people read the leading headline and about of the first paragraph, and form an opinion just from that

Afraid you're correct. Alas. The titles or headlines are competing with clickbait.

 

[random]

I don't think most people even read the first sentence, let alone the first paragraph, anymore. Just the headline.

 

[bmblank]

I don't think most people even read the first sentence, let alone the first paragraph, anymore. Just the headline.

I'm surprised I read this far into your comment!

 

[sheepfarmer]

Here is another one. If a guy lies about his credentials, not likely his scientific opinion is worth much.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/950118

this didn’t used to happen much in the olden days, rare but not never. Now it is a daily occurrence.