Help with USA terms

Stu

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Hi. This is a great site, helpful & informative. Keep it up boys & girls.
My questions are being from the UK we use different abriviations & language so I'm having trubble understanding some things. Could someone help with the meaning of
What's a bush hog?
What's a box blade?
What's a rhino blade?
I have no idea what these implements are called over here. Having recently bought a ZL2201 (L245) this site has been so helpfull. Does anyone know what the lever on the top of the transition not either of the two that wrk the PTO or gears.
As I understand things the knob under the seat is for controlling the hydrollic flow/ presure, is this correct? & how & what is it used for?
All help gratefully accepted
 

Daren Todd

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Bush hog is actually a brand name. But unless specified a person is referring to a rotary cutter/ slasher usually.

Box blade is a back blade with sides. Works great for dragging lots of material and filling low spots.

Not sure about the rhino blade. Assuming it's a manufacturer like bush hog.

If you have a third lever marked h n l on top of the transmission along with the gear shift and pto lever, then you have what they call "creeper gears" which is a super low range.

My l1501 is set up with the creeper gears. You can gear it so low, that you can climb off run in the house and grab a drink. And only have it move ten feet or so :D
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Hi. This is a great site, helpful & informative. Keep it up boys & girls.
My questions are being from the UK we use different abriviations & language so I'm having trubble understanding some things. Could someone help with the meaning of


What's a bush hog? (THAT IS A NAME BRAND - BRUSH HOG IS A GENERIC TERM) IT IS A PULL BEHIND ROTARY CUTTER

http://bushhogpartsfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bush-hog-parts-mowers-florida.jpg

What's a box blade? IT IS A 3 POINT ATTACHMENT THAT IS SHAPED LIKE A BOX TYPICALLY AS WIDE AS THE WIDTH OF THE TRACTOR. IT CUTS HIGH SPOTS AND PLACES IN LOW SPOTS.....MOST HAVE TEETH THAT WILL CUT INTO THE SOIL
http://www.farmercenterequipment.com/BoxBlade.jpg


What's a rhino blade? (AGAIN A NAME BRAND)

TYPICAL PULL BEHIND REAR BLADE, USING FOR GRADING OR REMOVING OF SNOW - OR CUTTING DIRT.


http://www.servis-rhino.com/product/utility-rear-blades

I have no idea what these implements are called over here. Having recently bought a ZL2201 (L245) this site has been so helpfull. Does anyone know what the lever on the top of the transition not either of the two that wrk the PTO or gears.
As I understand things the knob under the seat is for controlling the hydrollic flow/ presure, is this correct? & how & what is it used for?
All help gratefully accepted
 

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If your tractor is 4x4, the lever(rod) may be to shift from two wheel to four wheel drive. If so, you pull up or push down.

Stu, if you want us to quit guessing, post a picture!
 

Stu

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Hopefully this should be a photo of said lever. My tractor is 2WD so not that's. It would be useful if it's a creeper gear but will have to wait infill I'm next at my lock-up.
Assuming this is a creeper gear I'm guessing it's used the same as any other gears & is like another Hi/Lo lever? Therefore giving me extra low gears for pulling a heavy implement, or claiming a seriously steep incline etc.
Thanks for helping figure out some of the implements at least I can follow what Poeple's post are about.
Does anyone know if over here in the UK we will still have the drama getting parts for this model. Would it still be advisable to call it a L245 or would it what it's badged up as a ZL2201,
Anyone on the site from UK who can give my any pointers & tips on using this tractor as I haven't driven a little tractor for a very long time. Then it was a HST version. I'm still pleasantly suppriced at how well these little things are equipped so look forward to giving it proper workout in the new year. Great site
 

Daren Todd

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Stu, that lever is for creeper mode :D move that into low range, and you can still use the hi/low selectors to the left of your seat. It gives you an option for 8 slower forward speeds, and one reverse speed while in creeper mode. It will only allow you to go into reverse while creeper mode in one speed. Can't remember which one. So if your in creeper mode and can't get it to go into reverse, move the hi/low selector on the left of the seat to the opposite position. Then try again ;) The creeper mode is usually used for tilling.
 

coachgeo

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Creeper is SLOW. you could sit a hundred plants ready to drop in the ground on a trailer attached to the tractor, Grab a garden a spade from your Wifey to dig a hole for each plant.
. Put the tractor in creep.
. Dig a hole, grab a plant and drop it in,
. wait 10 min for tractor to move forward a bit
. move over 2 inches (5.1cm) to catch up with the tractor
. dig the next hole and drop plant in it.

Week later you will have finished planting all the plants, in a row, two inches (5.1cm) apart. total distance of 200 inches (5 1/2 meters), give or take.:eek::D

granted there would be seven 3 foot gaps of nothing every once in a while where you went to sleep at night for 8 hours and the tractor kept creeping forward.:D


(not accurate numbers..... but you get the point. Creep makes crawl look like snails play
 

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I use creeper gear to push vehicles into workshop, i walk between both - steering as necessary. Very slow, but i dont need a helper.
 

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Stu, that lever is for creeper mode :D move that into low range, and you can still use the hi/low selectors to the left of your seat. It gives you an option for 8 slower forward speeds, and one reverse speed while in creeper mode. It will only allow you to go into reverse while creeper mode in one speed. Can't remember which one. So if your in creeper mode and can't get it to go into reverse, move the hi/low selector on the left of the seat to the opposite position. Then try again ;) The creeper mode is usually used for tilling.
OMG, I want one, I guess it CAN NOT be added to an existing trans?
 

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Another goofy American term for "creeper gear" is "Granny" gear.

When you have less than 20 hp its nice to have ultra-low gearing to be able to actually move heavy items. Granted, most of these tractor are flea-weights where you run out of traction before you run out of hp but, at least you get all the power available to the wheels.

I had an old Ford F1700 (under 20 hp) manual transmission with a 4sp manual and three or four range settings. I put that in low range, first gear, let out the clutch, got off, picked up my 10 year-old daughter and put her in the seat. During all that, at idle, I think the tires made a quarter of a revolution. Once in the seat, I opened up the throttle and she was driving her first vehicle at some fraction of a mph. WHOO-HOO! :)

Ray
 

coachgeo

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Another goofy American term for "creeper gear" is "Granny" gear.....

Ray
Not that it is of any real significance since Granny gear is a term oft-extended beyond what it originally start as which ..... I think is "typically" low low 1st gear only. As in a 4 speed tranny with 1st being so low it is never used except for "working". Creeper is even lower than that and in effect is a gear reduction below "low range" and like "low range" it affects the main 3 or 4 available gears.
 

coachgeo

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OMG, I want one, I guess it CAN NOT be added to an existing trans?
hmmm....... I would venture to say yes it can be added but that is only a guess based on having once seen the internals of a creeper set add on for Unimog.
 

Stu

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Billrigsby thanks for the photos showing your rebuild it looks like you've put some time & effort into rebuilding your bota. Would you happen to have any close ups of how your loader is plumbed into the hydroillics ? Only I want to pipe mine up at the rear to power various implements etc but I've been told two differant ways to do it. The first said to tap into the hydroillic valve under the seat however the person I got it off told me I should tap into the hydroillics on the left hand side of the transmition / back axle. Do you know which is correct ?? Any photos showing where to tap in would be so helpfull. Thanks for all the help everyone