Grand L 3130 hydro filters??

[Beaudeane]

Dad was gonna do the service on his grand L 3130bought new in 2005. He got filters it called for. One or the hydro tranny filter won’t fit. He went to local Kubota place & they were baffled. Will get the old and new filter part numbers tomorrow. The old number he said was discontinued and replaced with one that has an extra number or letter at the end of it. Think he said the hole in the old filter was 1.280 and the hole in the new filter is only 1.125... I’m confused as I’m not there to see it for myself. I’m sending him to the hydraulic shop to see if they may help finding the right filter. North Idaho wolf man or one of u other guys that know about this kinda stuff please chime in and let me know what other info I need to get him the right filter please. The dealer he bought the tractor from and got the last filters from at last service is no longer in biz as a Kubota dealer for several years now. The dealer he did go to today was the one I bought my tractor from and they were baffled because of filter it called for not being the same size hole as the one he pulled off the tractor this time. Yes confusing but will get the part numbers from him tomorrow to post on here

 

[Saxman]

I have a 2006 ( at least that’s when I bought it from the dealer) L3830. There was never any confusion when I got a hydraulic or hydro filter for it. Seems strange


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[lugbolt]

what are the part numbers for the filters you got?

 

[Saxman]

Hydro: TA240-59900

Hydraulic: TA040-37710

Is what I installed last time


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[200mph]

The part numbers are similar to what Messick's shows for the application.

Hydaulic: HHTA0-59900 Thread Size: 1 1/8-16

HST: HHTA0-37710 Thread Size: 1 1/8-16

Added in Edit:
Kubota doesn't list the thread size on line. Used the Kubota #'s above, crossing to Wix yields the thread size list above. Not saying this is 100% accurate, but what I found in an effort to help.

 

[Beaudeane]

Ok, old filter was a Baldwin bt9358. He got it from dealer at 40 hr service. Kubota factory filter wouldn’t fit at that time either. New filter he got was also a Baldwin bt9358. Difference is hole size being 1.125 on new one and 1.280 on old one and new one has a patent number on it where old one didn’t. Maybe it was built with different parts than supposed to be for thing filterscrews on to? Don’t see why Baldwin would change threading on a filter with same number. Made me wonder if dealer had re cut new threads in the filter he got last time

 

[Jim L.]

Is this L3130 an HST?

Are we talking about the HST filter or the hydraulic filter as defined by Kubota?

Suggest that you go to the Kubota parts website and look up the diagrams for the L3130. Look in the hydraulic system and you will be able to match the filter part number to its mating filter bracket part number.

Then the decision to change the bracket to what it is supposed to be, or to find a filter which will fit the bracket without tapping the filter threads.

I would change the bracket to what it is supposed to be, rather than have confusion each time as to what will work as a filter.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Proper filters are:

Hydraulic:
Old P/N TA040-37710
New P/N HHTA0-37710
Baldwin P/N BT8488

HST:
Old P/N TA240-59900
New P/N HHTA0-59900
Baldwin P/N BT9358

If the filter is too small for the threaded adapter coming out of the filter housing, the most likely scenario is that someone has stripped out the adapter and installed a larger adapter in place.

The HST and Hydraulic filters are the same thread size on that model, so you could use the hydraulic filter and housing to compare the two.

If this is the case I would change out the filter housing and adapter.

I do find it odd that a Kubota dealer is pushing Baldwin filters???

Also is this only the second filter change, and your father did the first?

 

[Beaudeane]

Thx wolf man. I also just called Baldwin b4 read ur reply. Was told by a service engineer that there’s an adapter plate that goes from 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 on those filters and may still be on tractor. I relayed info to dad from both yall. I will be home in couple days from trucking to help him figure it out if he can’t find which one was the problem b4 then.

 

[Saxman]

Thx wolf man. I also just called Baldwin b4 read ur reply. Was told by a service engineer that there’s an adapter plate that goes from 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 on those filters and may still be on tractor. I relayed info to dad from both yall. I will be home in couple days from trucking to help him figure it out if he can’t find which one was the problem b4 then.

That makes sense to me as to what happened. In my opinion use the Kubota filters. You don't have to change them that often so go with the best. I'm surprised that an aftermarket hydro filter is listed. Those are high pressure base and body filters. The OEM Kubota filter looks like billet aluminum base. That's why it's $64


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[North Idaho Wolfman]

Awwww the old adapter plate issue, I've seen that one time before, had us scratching our head for a while!
Sounds like your on the right path to getting it fixed up!

 

[Beaudeane]

Jim, yes it’s an HST tractor. Pretty positive it’s the hydrostat filter that’s for the transmission. He said (dad) that it’s on the left side and part was labeled BT9358. I wasn’t home during this attempted servicing to help my 77 yr old one eyed dad do it this time. Info from wolf man has helped me now knowing both the hst and hydraulic filter are supposed be threaded the same, though different filters. Not sure dad will be able to see that adapter plate the Baldwin guy told me about. Reason for Baldwin on it last time was that the same problem was there at the 400 hr servicing and the dalton ga Kubota that’s no longer in biz came up with that as solution. Not sure if that dealer knew there was or wasn’t an adapter plate on the old filter. Guessing they unscrewed the adaptor plate from the new filter they gave him back then b4 giving it to him and he thought that Kubota filter was wrong for it. Will see when I get home if he don’t have it back together by then. I will be installing a new housing on it if that’s not the case. Dads thinking was they built it outta spare parts. Told him I would find out what I could on it. Again, thx for the help and ideas guys

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

In this picture the aluminum on the bottom of this filter is the adapter: