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I`ve always figured when people use those "cloud" type services, its like having others store your guns for you. My wife had some valuables stored on the "cloud" services. Everything was lost. She never got anything back. And all they said to her was, "oh, we`re sorry about that".

If you have anything of value to you, DONT USE CLOUD SERVICES!
If you do, have a backup file of some sort. Dont rely on others to guard your valuables.

And always remember, if it isnt inside your house, everybody in the world has access to your valuables.

One day, people will find out that this technology isnt as great as they think it is. One mishap, POOF/GONE!
 

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I`ve always figured when people use those "cloud" type services, its like having others store your guns for you. My wife had some valuables stored on the "cloud" services. Everything was lost. She never got anything back. And all they said to her was, "oh, we`re sorry about that".

If you have anything of value to you, DONT USE CLOUD SERVICES!
If you do, have a backup file of some sort. Dont rely on others to guard your valuables.

And always remember, if it isnt inside your house, everybody in the world has access to your valuables.

One day, people will find out that this technology isnt as great as they think it is. One mishap, POOF/GONE!
As much as I hate to I have to agree, had nothing but trouble with cloud and even google being a pain in the butt lately. I have dumped cloud probably a month ago but getting rid of crap like this isn't nearly as easy as it used to be.
 
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The "cloud" is just a hard drive somewhere else ... absolutely no telling who owns it, but someone does, and they may or may not be technically competent. At all events, it is utter insanity to store anything vital or personal or essential or non-trivial in the "cloud". Sooner or later it WILL be lost. Like the fellow on the commercial says "I garonteee it!"
 
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The "cloud" is just a hard drive somewhere else ... absolutely no telling who owns it, but someone does, and they may or may not be technically competent. At all events, it is utter insanity to store anything vital or personal or essential or non-trivial in the "cloud". Sooner or later it WILL be lost. Like the fellow on the commercial says "I garonteee it!"
You don't know how the "cloud" works do you?
The last think anyone worries about is loosing info on the cloud because info is not stored on one "hard drive".
It's stored on multiple drives at multiple locations at the same time with very little chance of loss.
It has higher error and bit checking than a single drive or location would ever have.
It's more likely that a raid drive will loose info than the "cloud".
Crash your computer with a good drive and very likely you'll loose all info.
Crash a computer with mutiple drives and very likely you'll loose info.
The only real down side to cloud storage is cost and the ability for it to be accessed buy someone that you would rather not have access it.
But really the pictures of your wedding in the Ozarks and pictures of your son's first grade graduation video will have any use to anyone.
Anything else you should have encrypted before you ever saved it, even if it is on your "safe" hard drive.
 

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Crash a computer with mutiple drives and very likely you'll loose info.
I think you mean "no" info?
That's a good layman's layout on how cloud services work. It's all redundant and segmented. Now, if there is a problem and they say your data is lost, it means one of two things:
You are using a sub par provider and they don't know what they are doing.
They don't know where your data files got moved to and you aren't important enough for them to spend the resources to find it.
Cloud storage and SaS are fast and reliable. Security is an issue with anything connected to the internet. Once it's on copper, it's out there. Encryption is key.
 

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The "cloud" is just a hard drive somewhere else ... absolutely no telling who owns it, but someone does, and they may or may not be technically competent. At all events, it is utter insanity to store anything vital or personal or essential or non-trivial in the "cloud". Sooner or later it WILL be lost. Like the fellow on the commercial says "I garonteee it!"
I can tell you who owns it. More than likely its AWS (Amazon) or Google. Between the two, they own the lions share of hosted hardware.
Personally, I use Proton. It's servers are not either of those above. End to end encryption. They can't even decrypt the data themselves.
 

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I stand by the original thought that if data is "in the cloud" you have lost control of that data. If you erase it, you will never know if it was copied first.
Encryption is a great idea that very few people really understand. Look up "public key encryption systems" - it is an elegant system that has been around for decades and still hasn't settled on a really secure state. It does depend
heavily on factoring very large numbers, but some of those challenges appear
shakey with the promise of quantum computing. That leads to a rather large
search for quantum-safe algorithms, a search which is really in its infancy.

While you are at it investigate NIST and HIPAA standards and why/how they have shifted over the years, mostly in response to newly discovered threat actors.

We read almost daily of "data breaches" for data that was stored "in the cloud".

The "cloud" is a very nebulous term, and suggesting it is a secure solution is not factual.

To each his own: mine will not include the "cloud". Sorry if I upset anyone.
 

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Your data if in the 'cloud' is NOT secure. Once it's left YOUR computer, it is NOT secure. YOU do NOT have 'control' over your data.period.
Yes, it's a little more difficult to 'hack' but it can be done. What is surprising to me is that so much data is NOT encrypted as it's being stored on whatever harddrive, wherever it is, especially personal information.
'Cloud services' came about as people were too lazy to do it themselves, easier to pay an IT company to do it. Today it's dirt cheap to have a hot backup and 2 or more warm backups.'backup' means different things to different people. data could be valid as of 24 hrs ago, 24 minutes or 24 seconds.all depends on what value you put on that data.
 
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