Glow plugs not so glowing

Hugo Habicht

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So a 3 volt drop with no plugs connected is “normal”?
No, it cannot be that you have 3V drop with nothing connected. There must be current flowing somewhere. If your meter current causes this voltage drop then your start switch is definitely faulty.

Maybe you should describe exactly what you do and at which two points you connect your voltmeter.
 
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No, it cannot be that you have 3V drop with nothing connected. There must be current flowing somewhere. If your meter current causes this voltage drop then your start switch is definitely faulty.

Maybe you should describe exactly what you do and at which two points you connect your voltmeter.
Bingo! Go read post #7.
 

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I'll repeat:

Disconnect the wire at the glow plugs and put your meter to that wire and ground and crank the tractor.
What voltage are you getting?

Pull the manual stop rod, if it's firing to quickly.
 

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I'll repeat:

Disconnect the wire at the glow plugs and put your meter to that wire and ground and crank the tractor.
What voltage are you getting?
Wolfman, I’m not able to perform that test right now because I’ve already pulled the dash apart. I will tell you that with glow plugs disconnected, I get 12.5 volts into switch and 9.25 volts at glow plug connector in engine compartment with switch on pre-heat.
 

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FWIW ...
3 glow plugs in parallel will draw 30 amps. They're about 1 ohm each, nominal 10 volts from GP ind.

If the switch really is .25 ohms, you'll only get 5 volts to the indicator and glow plugs as 7 volts ( .25 *30 ) is 'lost' at the switch,providing all glow plugs are good.

Disconnect the busbars connecting the glowplugs and measure each plug's resistance. Should be 1 ohm. Be sure to compensate for lead resistance. You can also put a 15 amp ammeter in series, should get 10 amps+-.

Most DVM today can read low ohms, down to 0.1 ohms, IF you subtract lead resistance first.
4 glow plugs, so 40a. Plugs measure .58-.60 ohms.
 

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Wolfman, I’m not able to perform that test right now because I’ve already pulled the dash apart. I will tell you that with glow plugs disconnected, I get 12.5 volts into switch and 9.25 volts at glow plug connector in engine compartment with switch on pre-heat.
Without both tests you don't have a base to go from.
Yes so far it's pointing too a bad switch, but you need both tests to confirm.

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Without both tests you don't have a base to go from.
Yes so far it's pointing too a bad switch, but you need both tests to confirm.

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thanks Wolfman. Seems crazy to run that kind of current through the switch without a relay. I’ll run the other test once I get it back together. I’m guessing the only thing glowing in the circuit is the switch contacts!
 

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As @NIW asked what is the voltage with the ign. sw. in the crank position? The glow plug circuit goes through the glow plug in the preheat position so the voltage and current will be limited during preheat. During cranking the circuit goes directly to the glow plugs so you will get battery voltage minus any voltage drop in the circuit.

You can perform a voltage drop test by placing one lead of your voltmeter on the batt. terminal and the other on the glow plug terminal. This will tell you how much voltage drop there is across the switch. Remember there is a G1 and G2 terminal. One for preheat and one for cranking.
 
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