Gas is not expensive enough!

cabu

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Hello my friends,

just to let you know what others have to pay for fuel:



With one Euro for $1.30 and not liters but gallons:

7.05 - Diesel
7.77 - Super (95)
8.01 - V-Power (100)
8.68 - V-Power Racing (???)
7.96 - V-Power Diesel (Additives)
7.00 - Truck Diesel

By the way, most of my friends drive small cars, like BMW 318 or Audi A3.
Any idea why? ;)

der carl
 

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I have heard and seen reported that the basic cost of gas is about the same between Europe, Canada and the US, but the amount of tax is very different.

These were interesting comments from this 2008 article:

A common statement that you will hear some U.S. citizens say when the topic of high gas costs is broached is, “Europe still pays more than we do.” While this may be true in the absolute cost per gallon (3.8L) of gasoline, numbers can be used to deceive when not presented properly. As it turns out, the average cost of one gallon of gasoline in Europe is $8.70 as compared with the U.S. cost of $4.00 per gallon. This is a misleading figure because the components of the two different cost figures are drastically different.

In the U.S., about 11% of the final cost per gallon is from taxes. At the $4.00 per gallon average cost, this means that $0.44 is tax and $3.56 is the pretax cost per gallon. Europe’s prices, on the other hand, are comprised of 70% taxes and 30% pretax cost. Taxes on the $8.70 average per gallon cost are $6.09 and the pretax cost per gallon is $2.61. Wait, did you catch that? If you disregard taxes, Europeans pay $0.95 LESS than Americans for one gallon of gasoline.
I don't know how accurate it is, but it is generally what I have been lead to believe from other articles I have read. Here is the whole thing, if you are interested:

http://www.babeled.com/2008/06/02/us-versus-european-gas-prices/

Taxing gas at high rates is being used as a motivator to try to reduce the dependence on oil in Europe. Is it working?

John
 

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They are taxing the shit out of gas an every damn thing else in the Nation to pay for the troops to be over seas. Which has been going on for too damn long now! Millions of American tax dollars being wasted over there daily, and lets not forget when the wounded trooper comes home its on us to take care of them.

SOOOO how much money is this war in Iraq costing yall in other countires?!?!
 

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They are taxing the shit out of gas an every damn thing else in the Nation to pay for the troops to be over seas. Which has been going on for too damn long now! Millions of American tax dollars being wasted over there daily, and lets not forget when the wounded trooper comes home its on us to take care of them.

SOOOO how much money is this war in Iraq costing yall in other countires?!?!
Vote RON PAUL!!!
 

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Taxing gas at high rates is being used as a motivator to try to reduce the dependence on oil in Europe. Is it working?

John
Yes it is. For us Germans it's very important how much fuel a car needs. It is very popular to add an extra tank for LPG, because it's taxed less (price is half).

And when the change to electric cars will come, I would like to know how the government will control this. They will come up with an idea to get the missed tax because of no fuel consumption any more. They dyed the Diesel for heating, heating-oil. Maybe there will be an electricity meter at the car and it will be hooked up with the tax-authorities... ;)

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Yes it is. For us Germans it's very important how much fuel a car needs. It is very popular to add an extra tank for LPG, because it's taxed less (price is half).

And when the change to electric cars will come, I would like to know how the government will control this. They will come up with an idea to get the missed tax because of no fuel consumption any more. They dyed the Diesel for heating, heating-oil. Maybe there will be an electricity meter at the car and it will be hooked up with the tax-authorities...
I am sure they will figure out how to get the taxes and keep the Budget balanced.

As electric cars increase here in the US, it will be interesting to see how the Power Companies will come up with ways to generate more electricity for the extra load since siting new power plants is a problem and then how they will fuel them. I would expect Germany will have the same problem. The only other alternative is to cut consumption of electrical power to offset the extra load of cars, like our new curly florescent bulbs. Incandescent bulbs are no longer manufactured in the US. I am sure we will see more pressure to reduce load on our Power Grids.

John
 
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The answer is coal it can be made to burn clean its abundent and it keeps Americans working,,
 

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as in Pa. we folks in west Ky are sitting on millions of tons of coal, a workforce willing to go to work to mine it just no one wants it now! EPA, acid rain, etc etc.

tim
 

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Fuel prices in anchorage, ak are running:

Reg $3.74/gal
Premium $3.94/gal
Diesel $4.17/gal
#1 heating oil/diesel $3.43/gal

We have the lowest state fuel taxes in the US @ $0.10/ gal but we pay one of the highest pump prices.

I don't even want to talk about how much more my tractor cost compared to the lower 48!
 

cabu

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The answer is coal ...
I hope not. Maybe the change to powered vehicals by electricity will be done by regenerativ energy like solar, wind, water or geothermal. Burning thing's is no good idea unless it is H2+O=H2O.
And one side-effect is, that we don't send so much money to the terrorists in the middle east.
The Norwegens by the way manage it to get their demand for electricity with 99% from water. In Germany they want to get 25% as regenerativ energy in 2020. Cost us a lot of money. Maybe I should increase the monthly rate my tenants have to pay for energy...

der carl