G1900 not starting

sheepman

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Apr 24, 2019
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Alternate thread title: "There's no such thing as a free tractor."

Backstory: Around a year ago, our ancient Woods RM306 mower bit the dust (or the large rock, depending..). It was a PTO driven thing that would go on the back of our B26. It worked, but we don't really have a large enough area to warrant it, and it was pretty unwieldy around trees. As we were in the middle of trying to find a new mower, a G1900 popped up on Freecycle. Apparently, this thing ran perfectly 2 years ago. Then, one spring, it wouldn't fire. The guy who gave it to us said he had tried to work on it but couldn't find parts and didn't want to deal with it, so he bought a John Deere (blegh). I thought "Well, his loss is our gain" and naturally we loaded it up on a trailer and took it home. That was in the winter, which seems to me like a really bad time of year to work on a diesel engine that one doesn't know, so I left it until it got warmer.

Upon closer inspection, it looks like the previous owner decided based on some information that there was an issue with the injectors. This led him to seemingly try to take them out, and he managed to break the overflow pipe in the process. I was able to source a replacement for that, reassembled it, and lo and behold it doesn't start. It seems to crank normally (he says, having never heard one turn over before), but doesn't fire at all. Nothing visible is coming out of the exhaust.

Steps I've already taken:
1: Bleed the fuel lines. I loosened the nuts holding the pipes onto each injector and turned it over a couple times. Sure enough, fuel came out of all three. This leads me to believe that the pump is functioning.
2: Check the battery. We tried to jump start it, we charged the battery with a buzz-box, and still no start. Took the battery to Interstate Battery, they said it was in good condition and should work.
3: Check the oil. Sounds obvious, but I did check it. Full, and looks good. Coolant looks good too.

I haven't checked the glow plugs yet, I'll do that when I get home if it stops raining. My intuition says it should work without glow plugs given that it's around 70 degrees out. Am I wrong?

I haven't inspected the injectors yet either- I wouldn't know what to look for.

If anyone has any ideas or things to try, please say so. It's a D722 engine.
 

bucktail

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The Z750 in my L1500 is pretty tough to start without glow plugs, even in July.
 

D2Cat

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It probably needs some heat from the glow plugs. You can check them with an ohm meter, or you can remove them and put 12 volts to them.

Also, make sure you have fuel in the tank that hasn't been setting for those two years. It may have grown some algae in the tank. If the fuel filter looks black it is a good clue. Your fuel tank would need to be cleaned and and biocide added. If nothing else, keep the fuel tank as full as possible.
 

dlundblad

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Are you certain the starter is getting 12 volts?

If not, check the battery terminals. Had this issue on a G1800 diesel and gasser G1900. The G1900 was actually picked up for $500 because the PO couldnt get it started.
 

sheepman

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Thanks for the responses, folks. I'll look in to the glowplugs and check on the fuel whenever it stops raining for more than 5 minutes at a time. Spring in the midwest is a bit of a nuisance sometimes..

Are you certain the starter is getting 12 volts?

If not, check the battery terminals. Had this issue on a G1800 diesel and gasser G1900. The G1900 was actually picked up for $500 because the PO couldnt get it started.
The starter is in fact getting ~12-14v, depending on battery SOC. The terminals weren't looking great (probably okay on the inside but made it a pain to jump-start) so we replaced them. I can confidently say that that is not the problem.
 
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sheepman

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Wow, I'm terrible at forums. Totally forgot to come back and tell people the outcome.

Basically, I just had to try again and again and again. Eventually, I started getting smoke, and with help from a minivan, I got it jumpstarted. I'm pretty certain that the issue was bad fuel the whole time- once we filled the tank all the way, problems started to disappear. Glowplugs may yet not be working perfectly, but I'll test that later- for now, it's working quite well indeed. At first, it was only running on 2 cylinders, but once I bled the injector lines for everything it started running great. We put some new tires on with a more aggressive tread, and it will mow over *anything* now. Thanks for all the help!
 

D2Cat

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Probably the two items causing the most no start problems are bad fuel and bad electrical connections (especially at the tractor frame ground connection).

Good that you got it going with no real cost. Thanks for coming back and letting us know. It will help others who search for similar problems in the future.