Drive train warranty

19thSF

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I own a B2650. The factory tells me that the (6 year I think) drive train warranty is good until 8/24/23. That should mean that the first retail sale and warranty registration was 8/23/17. The original dealer says the tractor was sold in 2016. Doesn't seem to add up to me. Waht am I missing?
 

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If the factory is saying a 2023 term versus 2022, I'd be happy about it.

Maybe the dealer simply guessed, and missed by a year?

I know my sense of time/years gets more fuzzy as I get older....:eek:

If the dealer is one you might use for warranty work later on, maybe go back to the dealer with the factory's 8/2023 end-date, just to confirm?

Just thinking you don't want a surprise later on, which was the reason for your effort to look into it to begin with.

I can certainly understand you wanting to know for sure.
 

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I bought a 2016 BX 2370 and I did not get a 6 year warranty I don't think. I think they started that the next year but I am not sure. That may well be what the dealer is talking about.

Bob in WV
 

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I am not the tractors first owner. Bought it used. I wanted to confirm what was left on the warranty, so I asked Kubota. Their reply was that other warranties had expired, but that the Drive Train Warranty was good until August 2023. The original selling dealer claims they sold it in 2016. They used the serial number to get that information. Two things are possible here. The original dealer is wrong about when they sold it (hard to believe because they looked it up by serial number, and came up with the branch it was sold at, and the year. Or, somehow the warranty registration was delayed.

At any rate, I have the factory's answer to me in writing. I will go with that!
 

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This will not be any help, but I can tell you that if either of my Kubota tractors had a 15 year bumper to bumper warranty it would not have made any difference...:cool:

B2910 and BX2200. Have to check, but about 1300 hours on the BX and I think about 1800 on the B2910. Never had any warranty issues with either of them.

Hopefully, your interest in the warranty on your tractor will only be academic as well. :)
 

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I am the third owner of my 1996 Kubota tractor and NONE of the issues I’ve encountered with it would have been covered under ANY warranty. (Previous owner actions and mouse-cafe wiring-issues.). The basic tractor is a good, rugged design.
 

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I am the third owner of my 1996 Kubota tractor and NONE of the issues I’ve encountered with it would have been covered under ANY warranty. (Previous owner actions and mouse-cafe wiring-issues.). The basic tractor is a good, rugged design.
Gee George, you have an oldie but goody as well (and I thought my 02 and 07 M's were old...lol

You are Tier 2 like me, welcome to the smoke club....lol

Get yourself a mouser to eliminate the wiring issues (be apprised though that you'll get paw prints on the hood and dirt on the seat) as they like to sleep on tractor seats....lol
 

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Gee George, you have an oldie but goody as well (and I thought my 02 and 07 M's were old...lol

You are Tier 2 like me, welcome to the smoke club....lol

Get yourself a mouser to eliminate the wiring issues (be apprised though that you'll get paw prints on the hood and dirt on the seat) as they like to sleep on tractor seats....lol
I’ve got a “mouser”... or so I thought. My NYC-lawyer daughter married a guy who is allergic to cats so she sent the feline to me, after I warned her that this cat’s indoor pampered rich-lawyer’s cat-life is OVER. That cat must live out in the garage and forage for mice!

Unfortunately that cat is a “whiner” and pussy-foots around acting like it’s still living the rich-life. I’ve only found her with ONE mouse and that one was an infant.

My tractor lives inside a hangar with my other man-toys and is surrounded by “Tom-Cat” mouse-bait. I’ve not had a problem with mice out in the hangar and I repaired the mouse-eaten wiring immediately after I bought the tractor.

My ‘96 M-Kubota was the last year mfr’d without having to meet ANY of the Tier-1-4 standards. Here’s the text from diesel-net:

Background
Tier 1-3 Standards. The first federal standards (Tier 1) for new nonroad (or off-road) diesel engines were adopted in 1994 for engines over 37 kW (50 hp), to be phased-in from 1996 to 2000. In 1996, a Statement of Principles (SOP) pertaining to nonroad diesel engines was signed between EPA, California ARB and engine makers (including Caterpillar, Cummins, Deere, Detroit Diesel, Deutz, Isuzu, Komatsu, Kubota, Mitsubishi, Navistar, New Holland, Wis-Con, and Yanmar). On August 27, 1998, the EPA signed the final rule reflecting the provisions of the SOP [2787]. The 1998 regulation introduced Tier 1 standards for equipment under 37 kW (50 hp) and increasingly more stringent Tier 2 and Tier 3 standards for all equipment with phase-in schedules from 2000 to 2008. The Tier 1-3 standards are met through advanced engine design, with no or only limited use of exhaust gas aftertreatment (oxidation catalysts). Tier 3 standards for NOx+HC are similar in stringency to the 2004 standards for highway engines, however Tier 3 standards for PM were never adopted.

Tier 4 Standards. On May 11, 2004, EPA signed the final rule introducing Tier 4 emission standards, which are phased-in over the period of 2008-2015 [2786]. The Tier 4 standards require that emissions of PM and NOx be further reduced by about 90%. Such emission reductions can be achieved through the use of control technologies—including advanced exhaust gas aftertreatment—similar to those required by the 2007-2010 standards for highway engines.

Nonroad Diesel Fuel. At the Tier 1-3 stage, the sulfur content in nonroad diesel fuels was not limited by environmental regulations. The oil industry specification was 0.5% (wt., max), with the average in-use sulfur level of about 0.3% = 3,000 ppm. To enable sulfur-sensitive control technologies in Tier 4 engines—such as catalytic particulate filters and NOx adsorbers—the EPA mandated reductions in sulfur content in nonroad diesel fuels, as follows:

500 ppm effective June 2007 for nonroad, locomotive and marine (NRLM) diesel fuels
15 ppm (ultra-low sulfur diesel) effective June 2010 for nonroad fuel, and June 2012 for locomotive and marine fuels
California. In most cases, federal nonroad regulations also apply in California, whose authority to set emission standards for new nonroad engines is limited. The federal Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 (CAA) preempt California’s authority to control emissions from new farm and construction equipment under 175 hp [CAA Section 209(e)(1)(A)] and require California to receive authorization from the federal EPA for controls over other off-road sources [CAA Section 209 (e)(2)(A)].

The US nonroad emission standards are harmonized to a certain degree with European nonroad emission standards.

EPA emission standards for nonroad diesel engines are published in the US Code of Federal Regulations, Title 40, Part 89. Regulatory text, fact sheets and related documents are available from the EPA web site [2788].
 

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all cats will become mousers, regardless of where they lived prior. It is instinctive.

The problem is that most people feed them too much and they aren't hungry for rodents.

I have two, both were indoor cats that were rescued from a drug house that caught fire while the idiots were out getting more "supplies". House burnt up completely, they went to prison, I got the cats. They are sweet cats but the first few weeks they were crying for tuna or whatever else they fed them. They grew to eat regular cat food, you know, mice, spiders,etc. Turned into good barn cats that the neighbor girls love to come over & play with.

The other cat I have is an indoor cat that thinks he's king of the house. We have discussions about that.
 

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Like the Joe Walsh song goes... 'The smoker you are, the player you think....'

Too old to be a player but a smoker for sure, smoker as in black smoke and a screaming turbocharger........ love that sound.

Warmed up my 7.3 this afternoon. It stays garaged all winter but I fire it up and warm it up pretty regular. Love the sound of the straight pipe and that turbo chirp even when idling. Kubota's not so much, too heavily muffled but still you can her them if you listen close. Some day I may remove the mufflers and go to straight exhaust on them as well.

In the summer I'll leave the windows down with the 7.3. Though I have ac, I prefer the sound of the straight pipe and the hair dryer, music to my ears.