Downer Lumber Co. & Birdseye Pine

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I had a new shop built on my property a little over a year ago. Since then, I have been working to complete the interior walls. On the back and front walls, I used some old tongue in groove pine that came out of the house I grew up in. I inherited the house after my dad died many years ago and it has been vacant ever since. The pine paneling looks nice and I wanted to use it in some way, so I ripped it out, refinished it with shellac and put it up in my shop. I remember my dad telling me he bought the lumber at a local lumber store in the 1950s and put it up. The lumber store is now long gone.

On the end of the boards, I noticed the words "Downer WPA" and "Birdseye Pine". I did an internet search and could only come up with a Downer Lumber Company with locations in California, Idaho, and Montana. According to what I could find, the Downer Lumber Company went out business sometime in the 1960s.

I was wondering if any of you out west have ever heard of the Downer Lumber Company and if you are familiar with the Birdseye pine tongue in groove. Most people that look at it call in "knotty pine" but the boards are actually stamped "Birdseye pine" Board End.jpeg Unfinished Side.jpeg Back Wall.jpeg Front Window.jpeg . I would like to find out any information I could just for historical reference. Thank you for your time.
 
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Henro

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On the end of the boards, I noticed the words "Downer WPA" and "Birdseye Pine". I did an internet search and could only come up with a Downer Lumber Company with locations in California, Idaho, and Montana. According to what I could find, the Downer Lumber Company went out business sometime in the 1960s.

I was wondering if any of you out west have ever heard of the Downer Lumber Company and if you are familiar with the Birdseye pine tongue in groove. Most people that look at it call in "knotty pine" but the boards are actually stamped "Birdseye pine" View attachment 101692 View attachment 101693 View attachment 101694 View attachment 101695 . I would like to find out any information I could just for historical reference. Thank you for your time.
That pine looks very nice in your shop. Would make a home owner proud in their living room.

Sure is a downer if you can't find answers though...
 

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Terminology changes over time and has regional differences. What you have looks like what I would call knotty pine also, in spite of it being stamped birdseye pine. In woodworking, the term birdseye is usually paired with maple to describe a particular grain pattern. Here's a link to a website that deals with birdseye maple so you can see how they define it, it's quite a bit different than what you have. Also, that's a beautiful wall!

Birdseye Maple
 
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That pine looks very nice in your shop. Would make a home owner proud in their living room.

Sure is a downer if you can't find answers though...
My supposition is that the term"birdseye pine" was a marketing description used by "Downer" and/or other West coast sellers.
Throughout the USA that pine is commonly referred to as knotty pine.

I built a Nova Scotia waterfront vacation home, with very large vaulted ceiling, that had a lineal mile of Maine knotty pine.
The walls were sheetrock.
Pre-finished all pine prior to installation.
A major task, both finishing and installation.
It was truly beautiful.

Sold the place 4 years ago., due to my ever increasing age.
 

jyoutz

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WWPA stands for “western wood products association”. This association specifies the grading standards used for dimensional wood products.