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I felt really bad about how for many years I’d bought what was cheap and well-marketed as “dog food” ….and forced my dogs to eat.

Mostly, I had made them eat whatever was Most-Convenient for ME…. not necessarily best for Them …or what they might really have any choice.

Our Best Family Members get no choice but to eat what is put out for them, usually bought only on price and convenience…sometimes influenced by clever marketing that misrepresents the “meat by-products“ : GUTS and fecal matter that are blown out of chickens and offal left on the floor of meat-processing plants. (It’s no wonder they live short lives and die of cancers, pancreatitis, and diabetes.)

The local grocery carries a 10-lbs bag of chicken quarters for $5. This is Human Food… no additives or hormones allowed. The shelves also have human food…. oatmeal, frozen soup vegetable assortment, and yams or sweet-potatoes. All are Human Consumption items, and nutritious for your dogs (which are not actually carnivores but are omnivores.)

10 lbs Chicken Qtrs (protein)
2 0r 3 Yams / Sweet potatoes (starch, fiber and flavor)
2 lbs frozen vegetables (i.e. 1-bag, green beans,corn, peas, carrots) (carbs,vitamins/minerals)
2 or 3 cups oatmeal (fiber and texture)
water to cover (3 or 4 qts)
NO SALT or other spices! (important)

Place rinsed chicken in large pot and cover with water. Place cover on pot and Bring to a boil, then reduce to simmer for 1-1/2 hours, until meat and bones are easily separated with tongs. (This is easier than you might think. Large BBQ tongs pick up the Qtrs by the leg-bone which is given a “shake” while still in the pot…and the meat falls back into the pot. Discard the bones. Takes about 5 minutes to accomplish this thoroughly.)

Meanwhile, use a potato-peeler to skin the yams, and slice/dice them into half-inch chunks. After the bones are removed from the pot, toss the yam-chunks into the pot and Bring to Boil second time, then reduce to simmer 20-30 mins.

Add frozen veggies and bring to boil again, then turn heat Off.

Immediately, thoroughly stir-in all the oatmeal, and cover the pot and allow to rest 5 mins.

Check for excess liquid water. If necessary, stir in addt’l oatmeal to absorb excess liquid.

Allow to cool with pot covered. (takes a couple hours) Then place individual meal amounts in cheap, plastic zip-lok bags and store in refrigerator until ready to feed.

<EDIT> When feeding, I first place the closed zip-lok bag in a sink of hot water to “take the chill off”…. then dump it into the dog bowl. My dog constantly sticks her nose into my shorts or up my pant-leg while IMPatiently waiting for it.) 🤣
1 cup of food for each 10-15 lbs of dog, twice daily is what my 25 lb Heeler gets. She’s happy, ready to play, eager to remind me it’s “dinner time”!

This makes 20-22 meals for my 25 lb dog, and Total Cost for ten days feeding ? $10. ($1/day)

I cook it while playing on the I-net or watching TV… takes up only a few minutes of actual time that way.

In a separate bowl I keep about 1 cup of dry “kibble” beside the water dish to allow the dog to “snack” whenever desired. Most mornings it’s still there…some mornings it’s gone.

(well-formed moist “poops’ with zero issues too.)

My vet says this meets all nutritional needs of a healthy dog. BEST OF ALL: IT’s HUMAN QUALITY! YOU can safely eat it….AND it Taste’s Great! And she is Always Happy to Eat….and READY TO PLAY!

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We feed our dogs a very good quality dog food that they snack on during the day but most of their diet is chicken, vegetables, etc. My wife makes whole meals for them, I think they eat better than I do.
 
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Appreciate that recipe and your procedure sir!

Going to figure out how to give this a try. Our lab is 90ish lbs and our shepherd is 105lbs.... she's quite the chunky girl right now. She's ALWAYS ready to eat!

Even when she hears the dishwasher pop open she has to sneak in a few licks, wife always shooin' her away lol

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Well, having spent the last 11 years of my career inspecting petfood manufacturing facilities, I would take issue with your general characterization of petfood ingredients. There is a wide range of 'quality', and yes, some ingredients do include "offal" which is material that cannot be approved for human consumption. After processing, these are known as "flavoring innards" and are usually applied as a spray-on coating of kibble. So, they are not major components of most diets. Fat is another such ingredient.

If the label says "chicken meat", it is produced from mechanically deboned chicken necks and backs, which are inspected and passed for human consumption until they leave the chicken processing plant. [So, this material is clean as can be.] Ever wonder why you never see necks and backs for sale in the grocery store? Wonder no more. I inspected three very large local processors of chicken meat for pet food ingredient. Many hundreds of tons per day.

What I missed in your message was any effort to match the food you are producing with the actual nutrient requirements of the animals you are feeding. The approach that commercial petfood producers use is to match the ingredient proportions with the target animal's requirements. It's called ration formulation. Complicated process, but I dabbled in it during my graduate studies (for dairy cows and swine). Nutrient densities of the ingredient mixtures are calculated on a dry-matter basis.

Did you obtain a recipe somewhere, or is it just guesswork?
Pet food manufacturers use ration formulation to create balanced diets.
I'd guess your formulation is somewhat deficient in the mineral calcium. That's why you often see limestone or bonemeal as an ingredient in commercial petfood. The facilities that debone necks and backs work off specifications provided by their customers for ash content. "Ash" is an index for minerals, of which calcium is chief. To meet the ash requirement, processors add just bone back to the deboned meat. It all gets ground again at the petfood manufacturing plant.

A great place to start is here:
Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats | The National Academies Press

This is literally the bible for ration formulation. There's one for each domestic species.
You can read them for free online (thanks to our taxpayer dollars).

Dr. Paul
 
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Its funny you post this,, I ran, and I mean latterly ,ran in to a woman in Sams as she was moving with the speed of light gathering things on her cart and slammed in to me coming around the end of the isle. Beau coupe packs of chicken parts, a couple bags of rice, frozen veggies and assorted other stuff. I said you must be getting ready for a hell of a party,, she said no Im making dog food. I make it and then freezes portions. So Im thinking this must be some kind of beasty show dog or sporting dog. So I asked what kind of dogs do you have,, OH I HAVE A YORKIE!!! Ahh, says I, a dust mop with legs. I got one of those FU looks, and she stomped off pushing her flat bed cart. And yes I gave her a good 5 minute head start!
 
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Well, having spent the last 11 years of my career inspecting petfood manufacturing facilities, I would take issue with your general characterization of petfood ingredients. There is a wide range of 'quality', and yes, some ingredients do include "offal" which is material that cannot be approved for human consumption. After processing, these are known as "flavoring innards" and are usually applied as a spray-on coating of kibble. So, they are not major components of most diets. Fat is another such ingredient.

If the label says "chicken meat", it is produced from mechanically deboned chicken necks and backs, which are inspected and passed for human consumption until they leave the chicken processing plant. [So, this material is clean as can be.] Ever wonder why you never see necks and backs for sale in the grocery store? Wonder no more. I inspected three very large local processors of chicken meat for pet food ingredient. Many hundreds of tons per day.

What I missed in your message was any effort to match the food you are producing with the actual nutrient requirements of the animals you are feeding. The approach that commercial petfood producers use is to match the ingredient proportions with the target animal's requirements. It's called ration formulation. Complicated process, but I dabbled in it during my graduate studies (for dairy cows and swine). Nutrient densities of the ingredient mixtures are calculated on a dry-matter basis.

Did you obtain a recipe somewhere, or is it just guesswork?
Pet food manufacturers use ration formulation to create balanced diets.
I'd guess your formulation is somewhat deficient in the mineral calcium. That's why you often see limestone or bonemeal as an ingredient in commercial petfood. The facilities that debone necks and backs work off specifications provided by their customers for ash content. "Ash" is an index for minerals, of which calcium is chief. To meet the ash requirement, processors add just bone back to the deboned meat. It all gets ground again at the petfood manufacturing plant.

A great place to start is here:
Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats | The National Academies Press

This is literally the bible for ration formulation. There's one for each domestic species.
You can read them for free online (thanks to our taxpayer dollars).

Dr. Paul
You are very quick to criticize @GeoHorn???
Yet in all you ravings about inspecting dog food products, you failed to address the fact that many brands of dog food use fillers like melamine!

I'm a do a little of both kind of person, they get HIGH quality dog food with NO fillers and is cooked.
and they get a ton of real food, chicken, beef, pork, veggies, and breads.
It is all about balance and safe food, for us and for them.
I also give our kids vitamins and calcium supplements.
I've never, (Knock on wood), lost a kid due to nutrition issues.
We free feed so they all have plenty of food in front of them whenever they want it, and we don't have issues with food aggression or with anyone over eating and having a weight issue because of it.

And having wolves, wolf dogs, and dogs, makes it more challenging.
Keeping everyone well fed, healthy and happy is always top priority for us.
 
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Its funny you post this,, I ran, and I mean latterly ,ran in to a woman in Sams as she was moving with the speed of light gathering things on her cart and slammed in to me coming around the end of the isle. Beau coupe packs of chicken parts, a couple bags of rice, frozen veggies and assorted other stuff. I said you must be getting ready for a hell of a party,, she said no Im making dog food. I make it and then freezes portions. So Im thinking this must be some kind of beasty show dog or sporting dog. So I asked what kind of dogs do you have,, OH I HAVE A YORKIE!!! Ahh, says I, a dust mop with legs. I got one of those FU looks, and she stomped off pushing her flat bed cart. And yes I gave her a good 5 minute head start!
A close friend's wife makes homemade dog food. Hers is chicken/ beef/ pork (home raised), carrots, peas, brown rice, eggs from the hen house, and some pet friendly seasoning. I'm not sure of the whole recipe, but it's pretty darn similar to the stuff we get for Gypsy at $200 plus a month.
 
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I don't think @GeoHorn meant any harm.

Just a guy that greatly cares about his four legged family members. Most of us, like me, are not quite as educated as y'all. We got (or I got) no clue what they are putting in the standard bagged dog food. Its nice to know that some of y'all know exactly what's going on inside some of these facilities.

Because of limited funds, feeding my wife and kids come first. And unfortunately, atleast right now, my beloved pup's have always been fed the standard bags that major grocery chains provide. I'd love to change that some day....some day SOON!

I realized that the awesome wolfman and pigdoc are well educated far beyond most of us, and I love that! It's what y'all do! It helps us uneducated folks understand this.

I greatly appreciate all of y'alls input. All of y'all are 10 times smarter than I am when it comes to this particular topic.
 
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MOST "human grade" food is no better than dog kibble.

Even the "USDA Organic" seal is almost meaningless if you care about actual quality of the food you eat.
 
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I felt really bad about how for many years I’d bought what was cheap and well-marketed as “dog food” ….and forced my dogs to eat.

Mostly, I had made them eat whatever was Most-Convenient for ME…. not necessarily best for Them …or what they might really have any choice.

Our Best Family Members get no choice but to eat what is put out for them, usually bought only on price and convenience…sometimes influenced by clever marketing that misrepresents the “meat by-products“ : GUTS and fecal matter that are blown out of chickens and offal left on the floor of meat-processing plants. (It’s no wonder they live short lives and die of cancers, pancreatitis, and diabetes.)

The local grocery carries a 10-lbs bag of chicken quarters for $5. This is Human Food… no additives or hormones allowed. The shelves also have human food…. oatmeal, frozen soup vegetable assortment, and yams or sweet-potatoes. All are Human Consumption items, and nutritious for your dogs (which are not actually carnivores but are omnivores.)

10 lbs Chicken Qtrs (protein)
2 0r 3 Yams / Sweet potatoes (starch, fiber and flavor)
2 lbs frozen vegetables (i.e. 1-bag, green beans,corn, peas, carrots) (carbs,vitamins/minerals)
2 or 3 cups oatmeal (fiber and texture)
water to cover (3 or 4 qts)
NO SALT or other spices! (important)

Place rinsed chicken in large pot and cover with water. Place cover on pot and Bring to a boil, then reduce to simmer for 1-1/2 hours, until meat and bones are easily separated with tongs. (This is easier than you might think. Large BBQ tongs pick up the Qtrs by the leg-bone which is given a “shake” while still in the pot…and the meat falls back into the pot. Discard the bones. Takes about 5 minutes to accomplish this thoroughly.)

Meanwhile, use a potato-peeler to skin the yams, and slice/dice them into half-inch chunks. After the bones are removed from the pot, toss the yam-chunks into the pot and Bring to Boil second time, then reduce to simmer 20-30 mins.

Add frozen veggies and bring to boil again, then turn heat Off.

Immediately, thoroughly stir-in all the oatmeal, and cover the pot and allow to rest 5 mins.

Check for excess liquid water. If necessary, stir in addt’l oatmeal to absorb excess liquid.

Allow to cool with pot covered. (takes a couple hours) Then place individual meal amounts in cheap, plastic zip-lok bags and store in refrigerator until ready to feed.

<EDIT> When feeding, I first place the closed zip-lok bag in a sink of hot water to “take the chill off”…. then dump it into the dog bowl. My dog constantly sticks her nose into my shorts or up my pant-leg while IMPatiently waiting for it.) 🤣
1 cup of food for each 10-15 lbs of dog, twice daily is what my 25 lb Heeler gets. She’s happy, ready to play, eager to remind me it’s “dinner time”!

This makes 20-22 meals for my 25 lb dog, and Total Cost for ten days feeding ? $10. ($1/day)

I cook it while playing on the I-net or watching TV… takes up only a few minutes of actual time that way.

In a separate bowl I keep about 1 cup of dry “kibble” beside the water dish to allow the dog to “snack” whenever desired. Most mornings it’s still there…some mornings it’s gone.

(well-formed moist “poops’ with zero issues too.)

My vet says this meets all nutritional needs of a healthy dog. BEST OF ALL: IT’s HUMAN QUALITY! YOU can safely eat it….AND it Taste’s Great! And she is Always Happy to Eat….and READY TO PLAY!

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My wife of 87yrs makes the food for our Grand Dog, but she uses all freash veggies!

Don
 
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I felt really bad about how for many years I’d bought what was cheap and well-marketed as “dog food” ….and forced my dogs to eat.

Mostly, I had made them eat whatever was Most-Convenient for ME…. not necessarily best for Them …or what they might really have any choice.

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Kudos to you for doing this. It takes time/money/effort to get a good species appropriate diet for your pet. I have similar regrets about not doing it sooner and feeding them standard crap food in the past. We've seen serious health benefits though. I could go on about this topic.

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Well, having spent the last 11 years of my career inspecting petfood manufacturing facilities, I would take issue with your general characterization of petfood ingredients. There is a wide range of 'quality', and yes, some ingredients do include "offal" which is material that cannot be approved for human consumption. After processing, these are known as "flavoring innards" and are usually applied as a spray-on coating of kibble. So, they are not major components of most diets. Fat is another such ingredient.

If the label says "chicken meat", it is produced from mechanically deboned chicken necks and backs, which are inspected and passed for human consumption until they leave the chicken processing plant. [So, this material is clean as can be.] Ever wonder why you never see necks and backs for sale in the grocery store? Wonder no more. I inspected three very large local processors of chicken meat for pet food ingredient. Many hundreds of tons per day.

What I missed in your message was any effort to match the food you are producing with the actual nutrient requirements of the animals you are feeding. The approach that commercial petfood producers use is to match the ingredient proportions with the target animal's requirements. It's called ration formulation. Complicated process, but I dabbled in it during my graduate studies (for dairy cows and swine). Nutrient densities of the ingredient mixtures are calculated on a dry-matter basis.

Did you obtain a recipe somewhere, or is it just guesswork?
Pet food manufacturers use ration formulation to create balanced diets.
I'd guess your formulation is somewhat deficient in the mineral calcium. That's why you often see limestone or bonemeal as an ingredient in commercial petfood. The facilities that debone necks and backs work off specifications provided by their customers for ash content. "Ash" is an index for minerals, of which calcium is chief. To meet the ash requirement, processors add just bone back to the deboned meat. It all gets ground again at the petfood manufacturing plant.

A great place to start is here:
Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats | The National Academies Press

This is literally the bible for ration formulation. There's one for each domestic species.
You can read them for free online (thanks to our taxpayer dollars).

Dr. Paul
I appreciate your intent. However, my recipe includes 2 to 3 Yams…Each of which average 26 mg of calcium.. They also contain other important minerals like iron, zinc, magnesium, and potassium, which are beneficial for overall health, including bone health.

And, I suspect like other well-loved family members…. she gets plenty of wholesome treats which are targeted toward dog—health as well as dental-care.

Thanks again for your input.
 
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My wife of 87yrs makes the food for our Grand Dog, but she uses all freash veggies!

Don
@DONLI at UMMMMM at 87 years... if you got married at 16 that would make you 103! :oops:
She has to have been making you some really good meals over all those years! 😋

Just ribbing you. ;)
 
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@DONLI at UMMMMM at 87 years... if you got married at 16 that would make you 103! :oops:
She has to have been making you some really good meals over all those years! 😋

Just ribbing you. ;)
OK! you got me in a moment of a frail mind!
She is 87! And has been doing this for about two yrs! Little dog LOVES it!
Thats OK! I hace thick skin!

Don
 
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We feed our dogs a very good quality dog food

There's no such thing. Not at any price. Not from any company. It's all cereal with various flavorings and lots of marketing.

Dogs are designed to eat meat. Raw meat. If they need any "vegetables", it's once in a long while and they'll eat grass when they do need it.

Feeding them cereal & veggies is killing them.
 
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