Diesel Additives - Time to Change Brands?

[wendol]

I recently ran across this YouTube comparing five different diesel additives.

It's kinda lengthy but if you skip near the 39 second mark, you'll find the summary.

After viewing the video, I'm thinking of changing from Power Service to Opti-lube XPD.

Anyone using Opti-lube.......please share your thoughts on it.

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[jimh406]

View this one.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

I can’t see your video, but why do you want to change?

PowerService is a well respected brand.

Have you had problems with PS 911?………it has worked for me just recently.

Personally, I like it.

Kind of a “six of one, half dozen of the other” thing?

 

[Rcflyer330]

I recently ran across this YouTube comparing five different diesel additives.

It's kinda lengthy but if you skip near the 39 second mark, you'll find the summary.

After viewing the video, I'm thinking of changing from Power Service to Opti-lube XPD.

Anyone using Opti-lube.......please share your thoughts on it.

I run Opti-lube XPD all in one (its now called all season) at the winter rate all year around. Was using power service white before switching to opti-lube and have a bottle of 911 just in case. Either of the products are great but i probally will never see the benefits of either with the hours I put on my tractor except maybe the antigel properties.

I cant get optilube locally so i have to order it and that adds to the cost but i also use their grease too.

 

[Scm]

Have you had problems with PS 911?………it has worked for me just recently.

Saved me yesterday. love that stuff.

 

[McMXi]

After viewing the video, I'm thinking of changing from Power Service to Opti-lube XPD.

Anyone using Opti-lube.......please share your thoughts on it.

Yes, I bought a couple of gallons last spring after using Stanadyne for decades. Have I noticed any difference between the two? ABSOLUTELY NOT! But then again why would I. Both tractors and both trucks start and run as well as could be desired in all conditions with either. The thing is I have no way to measure or compare injector wear, internal corrosion, or cold start differences.

Bottom line is that I have no idea which is better and will use either based on cost and availability. Most important of all is that I will always use an additive to help with fuel lubricity and cold weather performance.

 

[wendol]

I recently ran across this YouTube comparing five different diesel additives.

It's kinda lengthy but if you skip near the 39 second mark, you'll find the summary.

After viewing the video, I'm thinking of changing from Power Service to Opti-lube XPD.

Anyone using Opti-lube.......please share your thoughts on it.

NOTE: Ad states "Video unavailable"............however if you click on "Watch on You Tube"
it is available for viewing.

After reviewing this video, I noticed the comparison included,
PowerService Kleen * Cetane Boost,
Archoil AR6500, and
Hot Shot Secret EDT.......
all without Anti-Gel!!!! Not an apples to apples comparison in my opinion.

 

[Old Machinist]

I've only used Biobor JF. Not had any problems so not changing.

I recently added Biobor MD but the jury is out on it's benefits, if any. It doesn't have a biocide but was supposed to reduce soot. So far my regen cycles have not been reduced so I'm not sure that is working for me.

 

[JonM]

most if not all additive short if a true diesel biocide or antigel is nothing but snake oil. it preys on your fear of missing out.

its kinda like wearing camo clothing to go deer hunting. you could literally wear a clown costume and do the same thing. all additives do is seperate you from you money

 

[Trustable]

Interesting, I’ve never seen any other brand than powerservice, but I’ll keep my eye out. I use the white bottle in winter, I’ll have to pick up a bottle of 911 as well based on the comments here if I ever forget to use the white bottle and end up freezing.

 

[McMXi]

most if not all additive short if a true diesel biocide or antigel is nothing but snake oil. it preys on your fear of missing out.

its kinda like wearing camo clothing to go deer hunting. you could literally wear a clown costume and do the same thing. all additives do is seperate you from you money

I'll agree with you on the camo for deer hunting argument, but don't agree with your opinion re diesel fuel additives offering no benefits other than anti-gelling or as a biocide. The anti-wear, anti-corrosion and cetane boosting properties have been well documented by independent labs. But as in all things, we're free to make our own choices.

 

[JonM]

I'll agree with you on the camo for deer hunting argument, but don't agree with your opinion re diesel fuel additives offering no benefits other than anti-gelling or as a biocide. The anti-wear, anti-corrosion and cetane boosting properties have been well documented by independent labs. But as in all things, we're free to make our own choices.

but does it make a real difference??? i would say it does not as no one has taken a couple thousand engines and run them all exactly the same way with and without for the entire useable lifespan of those engines and then checked the results and tallied up the costs to aee if it really truly saves money or wear or makea the engine usuable longer.

all the tests ive seen have nothing to do with actual engine wear

please do not list project farm as a source of any real info. but if you an cite an actual scientific source that has done such a test would be glad to see it

 

[SDT]

most if not all additive short if a true diesel biocide or antigel is nothing but snake oil. it preys on your fear of missing out.

its kinda like wearing camo clothing to go deer hunting. you could literally wear a clown costume and do the same thing. all additives do is seperate you from you money

Bingo.

 

[jimh406]

Feel free to not use additives. I'm assuming those who don't, don't have much experience with them. In other words, the opinions are based on real world results. YMMV.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I'm in the Stanadyne house.

 

[McMXi]

all the tests ive seen have nothing to do with actual engine wear

The fuel additives don't claim to reduce engine wear so that's not surprising.

 

[Old Machinist]

One of my tractors was bought used from a user that didn't believe in additives. The tank and fuel filter were clogged with algae. I will continue to treat my fuel.

 

[hagrid]

I'm in the Stanadyne house.

I do whatever Project Farm tells me.

 

[McMXi]

It's interesting that Stanadyne, who continues to make fuel pumps and injectors today also offered fuel filters and additives aimed at making their pumps and injectors run better and last longer. At some point Stanadyne sold the additives division to Parker Hannifin Company who sells the additives today under the Stanadyne name. They also own Baldwin Filters which is another respected company providing filters to the OEM and aftermarket.

As I've mentioned many times, I've run Stanadyne fuel treatment products in diesel trucks since 2002 and tractors and generators for the past 10+ years, initally for the simple reason that it's what a good friend ran and continues to run in millions of dollars worth of equipment that he owns.

• Detergents / Deposit Modifiers clean and protect fuel system
• Cetane Improvers improve combustion for better starting, smoother running and reduce engine noise /emissions
• Lubricants minimize fuel system wear
• Corrosion Inhibitors prevent rust / corrosion
• Water Demulsifiers help remove water
• Stabilizers stabilize fuel by preventing gum formation caused by oxidation
• Cold Weather Protection prevents fuel gelling

It was in Stanadyne's best interest to offer products such as fuel additives that improved the performance of the other far more expensive products that they sold, specifically injectors and pumps.

 

[McMXi]

but if you an cite an actual scientific source that has done such a test would be glad to see it

Define scientific? Here's one test conducted in 2007 that specifically looked at the improvement (or lack thereof) to fuel lubricity based on a standard wear scar test that is common in evaluating the effectiveness of oils and such. This took all of a minute to find. I have little doubt that if I spent an hour researching I could find plenty of data that shows how fuel additives are capable of improving various aspects of fuel storage, fuel delivery and fuel use.

https://jatonkam35s.com/DeuceTechnicalManuals/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf