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Little Mia

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Yes, it was running just fine till i shoved it back into that tight little space it sits in under the steering column, than it just shut off.
Its outside & too dark to do anything right now but heres 2 pictures I took earlier today while i was charging it (after it died obviously).
Thank you so much for responding!! I wasnt sure anyone would
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Little Mia

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Similar thing happened to me once... for me, it looked like the PTO lever was turned 'off' but it was like an inch from being actually pulled back all the way. There are a bunch of checks the machine does prior to allowing the engine to turn over. I'm curious too if you're getting lights on the dash. If so, and you're getting no clicks/attempts to start, more than likely one of your safety mechanisms is keeping it from turning over.

Your tractor looks like it's seen a lot of weather so could be a corroded connector somewhere that's not making good contact. Check your levers a bit and work them into their 'off' positions. Next easiest thing would be to check starting fuses. Then you might need to start digging a little deeper. I would guess it's one of those two things cause it was working fine just before taking the battery out.
Indeed it has. It was a hand me down from my mom who had it up in Colorado with her & she takes care of NOTHING she owns ("only daughter syndrome" carries into adulthood for some evidently 😂)
 
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Maybe your terminal (+ or-) looks okay, but has separated from the wire, or maybe your ground connection is bad. Your jiggling dislocated or shorted something.
 

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When you post the pictures please also share how comfortable you are with any type of repairs or maintenance so we have some idea what we can suggest for you to try. Like would you know how to jump the starter terminals to see if the starter is able to spin the engine?
Im comfortable with basic stuff. Like replacing parts that I don't have to to take half the engine apart to get to. I know my way around car engines relatively well, certainly more than I look like I do lol but Im no mechanic, thats for sure. As far as "jumping the starter terminals", I've heard of that being done but have never actually done it myself. If you walk me through it I feel comfortable doing it
 

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Little Mia

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Maybe your terminal (+ or-) looks okay, but has separated from the wire, or maybe your ground connection is bad. Your jiggling dislocated or shorted something.
My "jiggling" literally consisted of me pushing the parking brake all the way down than back up again lol
 

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Hardy har har lol
Actually I had an injured horse I had to wrangle & bandage. It never ends around here i swear 😒
Been there and done that, $36k in vet bills my last year in Phoenix.
 
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Little Mia

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This was my thought as well. On my BX 2200 I believe the PTO must be off, the range selector must be in neutral, and maybe the directional pedal must be centered.

I would check these three items to be sure they
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are in the proper position. Second I would try sitting in the tractor seat and holding the key in the start position, and moving these three items one at a time, and see if the engine started to turn over when any of them were moved.

Most important is that you give specific tractor model information. On my BX there’s a decal on the side of the frame that gives the information. If it’s the same on your tractor, take a picture of the decal and post it here.

edit: On my BX voltage is needed to keep the engine running. So it’s possible yours turning off when you removed the battery is not unexpected.
 

Little Mia

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Hi @Little Mia
When you shoved the battery back in, it's possible some wire shorted (and blew a fuse) or disconnected or just broke. Wires can get brittle with age.

ideas:
If the engine has a solenoid that needs power to keep the diesel flowing, then the engine would quit.
If there is a safety switch on the PTO or elsewhere that needs to be either OFF or ON to start maybe that's it.

Knowing the engine/tractor model/year would help us more.
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Alrighty we are dealing with a BX2360.
I'm sending you a PM it will help us help you with figuring out what is going on with it.
 
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Might want to have the battery checked at an auto parts store, then proceed with the advise given above. It's something simple, you just have to find it!!
 

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Would you still go with that if now I 'm not even getting lights on my dash like I was before?
 

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Im comfortable with basic stuff. Like replacing parts that I don't have to to take half the engine apart to get to. I know my way around car engines relatively well, certainly more than I look like I do lol but Im no mechanic, thats for sure. As far as "jumping the starter terminals", I've heard of that being done but have never actually done it myself. If you walk me through it I feel comfortable doing it
Thank you for the update.

Since you were able to get it started we know that it is not a starter problem.

I see in the picture where the battery is out and the charger is attached that the positive cable is bare cable at the terminal which means that the insulation is no longer up to the terminal. So I suggest that you plan on replacing it sooner rather than later. I don’t think that is the problem right now but the cable will probably start corroding and be a problem in the near future.

That cable appears to be stretched and under tension which may have done something at the far end so look at the connection to the starter to see if it looks fine or not.

Since it started but now has no power to the dash I would suggest looking at the wiring diagram to see how power gets from the battery to the dash. Usually the power comes off the battery cable and sometimes it is at the starter end of the cable. See if you can locate a fairly large red wire that is at the battery positive post or at the starter cable connector. It would have a large fuse or fusible link that protects the rest of the tractor wiring. Some where that power goes to the key switch and then to the dash. I assume that you have blown a fuse or broken a wire or connector is loose.

If you have a test light or multimeter that you can use then see where you have 12 volts (more like 13 really) starting from the battery.

Before doing anything I suggest cleaning the battery terminals, and cable ends. At the ground cable connection to the tractor clean where it connects to the tractor. When you get it running then come back and spray the end with a battery cable coating (or after you replace the cables) to keep them from corroding.

Keep asking and trying the suggested fixes, it will turn out to be something easy most of the time.
 
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Now it really sounds like a fuse 🤔
They also have so many safety gizmos to cut power. Too many attorneys involved in the design.
 
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Little Mia

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Thank you for the update.

Since you were able to get it started we know that it is not a starter problem.

I see in the picture where the battery is out and the charger is attached that the positive cable is bare cable at the terminal which means that the insulation is no longer up to the terminal. So I suggest that you plan on replacing it sooner rather than later. I don’t think that is the problem right now but the cable will probably start corroding and be a problem in the near future.

That cable appears to be stretched and under tension which may have done something at the far end so look at the connection to the starter to see if it looks fine or not.

Since it started but now has no power to the dash I would suggest looking at the wiring diagram to see how power gets from the battery to the dash. Usually the power comes off the battery cable and sometimes it is at the starter end of the cable. See if you can locate a fairly large red wire that is at the battery positive post or at the starter cable connector. It would have a large fuse or fusible link that protects the rest of the tractor wiring. Some where that power goes to the key switch and then to the dash. I assume that you have blown a fuse or broken a wire or connector is loose.

If you have a test light or multimeter that you can use then see where you have 12 volts (more like 13 really) starting from the battery.

Before doing anything I suggest cleaning the battery terminals, and cable ends. At the ground cable connection to the tractor clean where it connects to the tractor. When you get it running then come back and spray the end with a battery cable coating (or after you replace the cables) to keep them from corroding.

Keep asking and trying the suggested fixes, it will turn out to be something easy most of the time.
WOW! Thank you soooooo much!! Ok, I'm gonna go do some investigating with that info now. Will post update as soon as I have one. 😁😁😁😁😁
 
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Little Mia

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Now it really sounds like a fuse 🤔
They also have so many safety gizmos to cut power. Too many attorneys involved in the design.
Would it be a fuse located in that little fuse box you can see just behind the battery? Or elsewhere?