Dead battery error codes

[Wazooranch]

I went to start my L 3301 tractor, and my battery was dead. I heard some unusual noises but was unaware of what they were. I attempted to charge the battery. It would not charge. I attempted to start the tractor with 200 amp charging settings on my Charger, that also Failed. I replaced the battery, The tractor will now turn over, but it Sounds as if there is no fuel. As i pay more attention To the dash display, I start to see a multitude of Error codes Most appear to be electronic 12 V battery related.
I am not a mechanic, even though I am now pretending to be one. I believe my problem is lack of fuel, and I believe it is the fuel shut off solenoid. When I turn the ignition key on it makes a snapping sound.Thank you for any help you can give.

 

[sheepfarmer]

Were all your attempts to charge the battery with the battery removed from the tractor or at least with the connections to the tractor removed?

If not you may have done something to the computer control system.

If you can, please list the error codes, several people on the forum can tell you what they mean.

Tread carefully if you are thinking to mess with the fuel delivery system, this is a common rail tractor, and a mistake could get expensive.

Just guessing here, but think you have introduced an electrical problem attempting to charge your battery. I would go back to the beginning and replace battery, and check grounds carefully.

I think the ticking noise you hear is the fuel pump.

What manuals do you have on hand? Operator's manual?

 

[Wazooranch]

Were all your attempts to charge the battery with the battery removed from the tractor or at least with the connections to the tractor removed?

If not you may have done something to the computer control system.

If you can, please list the error codes, several people on the forum can tell you what they mean.

Tread carefully if you are thinking to mess with the fuel delivery system, this is a common rail tractor, and a mistake could get expensive.

Just guessing here, but think you have introduced an electrical problem attempting to charge your battery. I would go back to the beginning and replace battery, and check grounds carefully.

I think the ticking noise you hear is the fuel pump.

What manuals do you have on hand? Operator's manual?

I have the manual that came with the tractor. The photo that I sent, is what is clicking....Is that the fuel pump? All attempts at charging and starting were done with the dead battery attached and Tractor.

 

[Wazooranch]

I have checked all the fuses with the key on. They are all lit except The five amp starter relay which I assume would light up if I turn the tractor over, which it will do. I think the tractor is not getting any fuel, I visually looked In the fuel tank and there is fuel, and the gauge says there is fuel.

 

[sheepfarmer]

I have the manual that came with the tractor. The photo that I sent, is what is clicking....Is that the fuel pump? All attempts at charging and starting were done with the dead battery attached and Tractor.

I believe so. It is called an "electromagnetic fuel pump" by Kubota. You can check by following the tubes. It should suck fuel from the fuel tank via the water separator and transport it to a reserve tank before going to the fuel filter if it is same as my L3560. You can also download parts diagrams for free from Messicks website or from Kubota.

I still vote for a problem with the ecu generated by your charging attempt or related to whatever caused the battery failure in the first place. The computer will not allow the tractor to be started with some of the faults and error codes uncleared.

 

[Wazooranch]

I believe so. It is called an "electromagnetic fuel pump" by Kubota. You can check by following the tubes. It should suck fuel from the fuel tank via the water separator and transport it to a reserve tank before going to the fuel filter if it is same as my L3560. You can also download parts diagrams for free from Messicks website or from Kubota.

I still vote for a problem with the ecu generated by your charging attempt or related to whatever caused the battery failure in the first place. The computer will not allow the tractor to be started with some of the faults and error codes uncleared.

Awesome, thank you for your reply. I have cleared all the error codes except for P0605

 

[Wazooranch]

Awesome, thank you for your reply. I have cleared all the error codes except for P0605. Key off,2 amber button push, Used to bring up multiple error codes. I cleared them all but one, p0605,it now brings up a nine point diagnostic that has various values. Depending upon the diagnostic number.... turning the tractor over changes the readings.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

if, IF, Kubota uses regular OBDII codes...
P0605 is a generic OBD II powertrain code that applies to all makes and models of vehicles 1996 and newer. This code means that a control module read only memory error has been detected. ... OBD II error code P0605 indicates that the PCM has lost the ability to monitor one or more control modules.

 

[Wazooranch]

2015 model....is flashing the repair? And will that error code Prevent starting, now that I have replaced the dead battery?

 

[Wazooranch]

2015 model....is flashing the repair? And will that error code Prevent starting, now that I have replaced the dead battery? Thanks to all for your help!

 

[sheepfarmer]

if, IF, Kubota uses regular OBDII codes...
P0605 is a generic OBD II powertrain code that applies to all makes and models of vehicles 1996 and newer. This code means that a control module read only memory error has been detected. ... OBD II error code P0605 indicates that the PCM has lost the ability to monitor one or more control modules.

Something similar, "ECU flash ROM and CPU abnormality."

If that one code has not cleared with what you have done:
says to attach diagnostic tool, clear code, and see if code is output again etc., making it a dealer issue.

Now that you have cleared some of the codes, what does it do when you try to start it? Are you sure you have a good battery? Grounds checked? Sorry was typing when you said replaced battery.

 

[sheepfarmer]

I believe it will stop engine from running based on the diagnostic tree which says behavior during malfunction is "engine stop". I have no direct experience, so you will have to wait until one of the Kubota techs logs on or talk to your dealer. Much of this system has a 5 year warranty, check date of your purchase and your paperwork. With luck all it will need is clearing the code with a dealer laptop, and not a new ecu.

 

[Wazooranch]

I believe it will stop engine from running based on the diagnostic tree which says behavior during malfunction is "engine stop". I have no direct experience, so you will have to wait until one of the Kubota techs logs on or talk to your dealer. Much of this system has a 5 year warranty, check date of your purchase and your paperwork. With luck all it will need is clearing the code with a dealer laptop, and not a new ecu.

Wow! Didn’t know I had a five year warranty. That’s great news.
Closest dealer is 60 miles away. I will call the dealer we bought it from tomorrow. Thanks to all for All your help!

 

[lugbolt]

605 is a communication error, per say

if there was any possibility that the jumper cables/jump box was connected in the wrong orientation, or if they were shorted to ground at some point, the ecu may have been damaged, which can result in 605 being thrown, possibly 606 as well

is there a possibility of rodent damage to any of the wirings? I see it all the time, unfortunately

if it was not shorted or connected backwards, and no rodent damage, you would then remove ecu and inspect the pins in both the ecu and it's connector. If both are ok, ecu gets replaced or at the least a known-good one tried in it's place to verify that the ecu is in fact "bad" or not

my advice? From a tech's standpoint, look very very closely for any signs of rodents (mice, rats, squirrels). Look closely under the muffler and fuel tank for nests, or whatever. Look at all the wiring you can see, under the dash even. If you find no damage, take it to the dealer and let them address it as they are the only ones who have the tooling to properly diagnose. You won't want to start throwing parts at it. They are expen$ive. It is many times much cheaper to hire a dealer to diagnose it than it is for an individual with no training and tools to try to. That ECU itself alone is over $2000 retail so you don't want to just order one to try it

 

[Wazooranch]

605 is a communication error, per say

if there was any possibility that the jumper cables/jump box was connected in the wrong orientation, or if they were shorted to ground at some point, the ecu may have been damaged, which can result in 605 being thrown, possibly 606 as well

is there a possibility of rodent damage to any of the wirings? I see it all the time, unfortunately

if it was not shorted or connected backwards, and no rodent damage, you would then remove ecu and inspect the pins in both the ecu and it's connector. If both are ok, ecu gets replaced or at the least a known-good one tried in it's place to verify that the ecu is in fact "bad" or not

my advice? From a tech's standpoint, look very very closely for any signs of rodents (mice, rats, squirrels). Look closely under the muffler and fuel tank for nests, or whatever. Look at all the wiring you can see, under the dash even. If you find no damage, take it to the dealer and let them address it as they are the only ones who have the tooling to properly diagnose. You won't want to start throwing parts at it. They are expen$ive. It is many times much cheaper to hire a dealer to diagnose it than it is for an individual with no training and tools to try to. That ECU itself alone is over $2000 retail so you don't want to just order one to try it

Yep.....not cheap.....And then corrosion kicks in. Fix it, sell it.
$115 an hour travel time, appointment for tomorrow. Thanks for your input.

 

[Wazooranch]

Yep.....not cheap.....And then corrosion kicks in. Fix it, sell it.
$115 an hour travel time, appointment for tomorrow. Thanks for your input.