CMP to sell surpus M1911's

[armylifer]

To anyone that may be interested, The CMP has been designated to dispose of (sell to the qualified public) surplus M1911 pistols. There is not a lot of information about when the pistols will be made available yet but I just wanted to share the contents of an email that I received from the COO of the CMP. If anyone is interested, please check the CMP website, I do not have any more information than what is on the website or in this email. Email follows:

To all CMP constituents:

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions:

1. Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
2. All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
3. Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
4. The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred.
5. Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
6. No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
7. CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.
8. Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
9. Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
10. Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
11. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
12. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
13. When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
14. As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org

 

[prof.fate]

this has been in the works for several YEARS.

Congress has to change teh CMP charter to allow handgun sales. I think they're working on this now..so that's progress.

Once they are allowed to do it they'll get the guns (8k to 10k a year) and ha ve to check/grade and do whatever they do before tehy will sell them - so months maybe?

Then you ha ve issues of you can only buy a gun in YOUR state...so that's what, alabama and ohio only? Haven't heard how this will be dealt with..all guns will have to be shipped to your local FFL perhaps?

and demand will be off the charts. actually getting one will be like winning the lottery

 

[prof.fate]

from the CMP website, dated yesterday...

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/1911-information/

 

[sdk1968]

yeah ...

as a long time member at CMP...... THOUGHT i might grab a couple more..

but if you read that link posted?

holy crap they are gonna be RICH on these.

& you basically have to redo your membership & take pot luck with "mail sales" only..

this will make it a "no go" for me.

its NOT how CMP has ever done business in the past & not how they are gonna get any more money from me in the future.

totally bummed at this turn from them.

 

[skeets]

After the M1 CMP there wont be any more for me thank you very much

 

[armylifer]

I just got a "clarification" email from them this morning. This clarification makes this a no-go for me too. I think that they are over reacting to the high profile shootings and the revelation yesterday that the ATF has issued an order to seize firearms purchased by 4000 people that were improperly OK'd by the NICS system. Anyway, here is the clarification from CMP:

Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a "store front" FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one performed by CMP and the other performed by the FFL dealer the pistol is being shipped to.


Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org

 

[skeets]

Sounds like they really don't want them in anyones hands,,dont it

 

[armylifer]

This is a new venture for the CMP. For as long as I can remember the CMP has been selling rifles, but they have never sold pistols to my knowledge. There are several surplus 1911's out there at gun shows and many gun shops. I don't know how the US Armed Forces got rig of surplus pistols before this. I do know that many were kept in our unit's arms room after we were issued the M9's.

Since the 1911 was our main battle pistol for more than 75 years, they never had to develop a system to get rid of so many at one time before. I know that we were issued S&W Model 10's for our air crew survival weapon and many of those ended up on the civilian market. I don't know why they can't use the same system for getting rid of the 1911's.

In my opinion, the CMP is not the correct avenue for disposing of these pistols.