Can anyone tell me why
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They did that with turkeys here in Maine. I NEVER saw a wild turkey until about 10 years ago, now they're freakin' everywhere, driving the deer out and attacking pedestrians.
We do have a Spring and Fall season on them, but it doesn't seem to be making much of a dent in the populations.
We do have a Spring and Fall season on them, but it doesn't seem to be making much of a dent in the populations.
Regrettably I can think of more intentional and accidental introductions and other management interventions that have either not worked or caused more harm than good than I can think of ones tnat have helped. Classic example rabbits in Australia all the way up to Asian carp and mussels in the Great lakes. The wolves used to live in Michigan, but the ecosystem that they used to live in doesn't exist any more. It is not just the tree huggers that want species protected or introduced, hunters and fisherman do too. So the turkeys are doing surprisingly well around here too. Usually a dozen or so on my property, but due to the subdivision on the other side of the creek, it is hard to hunt safely, so they and the deer are over abundant. The whole deal is like trying to fix a Swiss watch with a breaker bar.
I think that any time man gets in the way of Mother Nature, bad things happen. Species have come and gone on this planet long before man was here, but since we are here, we have a dramatic effect on out environment. I can't say what is right or wrong, but I do see the irony of the Sea Lions [protected] feeding on the Salmon [protected]. What are we to do? Maybe let nature take its course. And if the outcome is undesirable, figure out what we are doing to promote the negative outcome and fix it.
I just read this to myself and thought gawd, I sound like a politician.
I'll quite now ;]
I just read this to myself and thought gawd, I sound like a politician.
I'll quite now ;]
10-4 on the turkeys. here in SW Pa turkeys were imported maybe 30 years ago, and it was closed season on them for the longest time. This of course was before we had the large influx of DOGS that we have now, though they havent made a dent in the flocks that I can see. One year I planted winter wheat to till under in the spring before I planted, sprouts got ohhh maybe an inch or so high. A flock came through, up to this point it was nice to watch them, and they cleaned out a patch 50x100 garden of winter wheat in about an hour. Thing looked like someone went crazy with a rototiller. It was open season on them after that..just sayin
I have deer hunting land in northern WI. We have a wolf problem. DNR wanted 350 wolves in the state. The last count was a minimum of 900. I bet we have twice that many now. The feds have tied the hands for state management. Hopefully that changes soon. The deer hunting industry in northern WI is over. Way too many wolves. It is not about science and common sense any longer, it's about emotion. The wolves are far from an endangered species in WI. Game needs to be managed, especially whey you are at the top of the food chain.
I have not seen a deer track on my 86 acres in months now. Plenty of wolf tracks though.
I have not seen a deer track on my 86 acres in months now. Plenty of wolf tracks though.
Here in la la land taxachusetts, last summer they had the bright idea to introduce rattle snakes on an island in the Quabbin Reservoir. For what reason I have no idea. There are timber rattlers in certain spots in the mountains, I've heard of them but have never seen one myself. The best part about this bright idea is they said they would stay on the island and not make their way into populated areas 
. I'm guessing these are highly educated people coming up with this idea, but I can't believe they think these snakes won't swim off that island. The stupidity of the state I live in constantly gives me a headache. I may be a little bias because I hate snakes, but I wouldn't have thought rattle snakes being extinct would be a bad thing.
http://www.telegram.com/news/20161219/snakes-on-quabbin-island-not-so-fast
. I'm guessing these are highly educated people coming up with this idea, but I can't believe they think these snakes won't swim off that island. The stupidity of the state I live in constantly gives me a headache. I may be a little bias because I hate snakes, but I wouldn't have thought rattle snakes being extinct would be a bad thing.http://www.telegram.com/news/20161219/snakes-on-quabbin-island-not-so-fast
There's not much comfort in realizing you guys have the same kind of idiots pulling the strings.
Its getting to the point where obliterating mosquitoes would be out of the question. But some ecosystem might need them. Imaging a mosquito being on the endangered species list. I would still kill them.
In my area, moose population is near zero,deer are dwindling and with this winter the wolves and coyotes are thriving.hard crust on snow i can walk anywhere. As can all the predators, but deer break through and cant run.
So no deer, wolves and coyotes move to where food is more abundant.
No pigeons, so my backyard fox is gone too.
In my area, moose population is near zero,deer are dwindling and with this winter the wolves and coyotes are thriving.hard crust on snow i can walk anywhere. As can all the predators, but deer break through and cant run.
So no deer, wolves and coyotes move to where food is more abundant.
No pigeons, so my backyard fox is gone too.
The turkeys seem to get along with the deer just fine here. Maybe we don't have as many. They do attack pedestrians in the burbs though. Good antidote for the disneyification of wildlife for those folks in my opinion. Every once in a while you see them get the cops involved. My mom just sends one of the grandkids out in the yard with a broom to chase them around the yard a couple of laps and they mind their manners. They're nice to have around the woodpile to clean up the carpenter ants.
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Down in Florida, some dip wad from UCF genetically altered a bug to eat mosquitos. Then managed to reintroduce it back into the wild with out a predator. The things are so acidic that nothing will eat them. And if you don't keep your car waxed faithfully, and then coat the whole thing in rain X, the blasted things will eat the paint off. And all this bug does is reproduce and eat a few mosquitos.
Before you encounter them, you see a cloud. Then realize that there are thousands of these bugs, and they are all stuck in pairs. They don't hurt you, but getting into a swarm of them is annoying and miserable, since you'll end up covered by them. The polite term for them is love bugs. Most people that encounter them use a vulgar term for them.
Before you encounter them, you see a cloud. Then realize that there are thousands of these bugs, and they are all stuck in pairs. They don't hurt you, but getting into a swarm of them is annoying and miserable, since you'll end up covered by them. The polite term for them is love bugs. Most people that encounter them use a vulgar term for them.
Oh...yeah....I am WELL familiar with the love bug. Millions of nasty smelling bugs that will eat the paint off of your vehicle. And btw, they taste like they smell! No wonder the birds won't eat them!Down in Florida, some dip wad from UCF genetically altered a bug to eat mosquitos. Then managed to reintroduce it back into the wild with out a predator. The things are so acidic that nothing will eat them. And if you don't keep your car waxed faithfully, and then coat the whole thing in rain X, the blasted things will eat the paint off. And all this bug does is reproduce and eat a few mosquitos.
Before you encounter them, you see a cloud. Then realize that there are thousands of these bugs, and they are all stuck in pairs. They don't hurt you, but getting into a swarm of them is annoying and miserable, since you'll end up covered by them. The polite term for them is love bugs. Most people that encounter them use a vulgar term for them.
They would get on your clothes and get smashed onto your seat and guess what? Stench.
I also remember a while back they talked about introducing a fly that would kill fire ants......and what controls the flys?
What about a bug that would get rid of idiots? Oh....did I say that out loud?
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I used to hate encountering them with a motorcycle. That was a miserable experience that was fairly common at certain times of the year.Oh...yeah....I am WELL familiar with the love bug. Millions of nasty smelling bugs that will eat the paint off of your vehicle. And btw, they taste like they smell! No wonder the birds won't eat them!
They would get on your clothes and get smashed onto your seat and guess what? Stench.
I also remember a while back they talked about introducing a fly that would kill fire ants......and what controls the flys?
What about a bug that would get rid of idiots? Oh....did I say that out loud?
For fire ants, I treat my yard with Bug B Gone. Doesn't kill them, but they move and become the neighbors problem
Actually after treating the yard, I treat the mounds with ant killer
Daren, while there is no doubt the lovebugs are obnoxious, their origin in Florida is a myth. Check Snopes. No mad scientists involved in this one!
Huh....I always thought it was a communist black operation to drive us from the South.....guess I was wrong. [emoji14]
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