bx25 stuck in the mud

Chris11

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Hello fellow Americans.

My tractor is stuck up to the errr...everything underneath.

Strangely the bucket won't lift the front end and the backhoe won't pull it out. I tried all three at once...holding down the reverse pedal, pushing back with the bucket and pulling with the hoe bucket.

I dunno if I'm suddenly having a problem with the pressure pump but i've always been able to lift the front end with the bucket...don't remember if I tried to lift the rear with the hoe bucket.

Am I missing something?? Thanks.
 

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Hello fellow Americans.

My tractor is stuck up to the errr...everything underneath.

Strangely the bucket won't lift the front end and the backhoe won't pull it out. I tried all three at once...holding down the reverse pedal, pushing back with the bucket and pulling with the hoe bucket.

I dunno if I'm suddenly having a problem with the pressure pump but i've always been able to lift the front end with the bucket...don't remember if I tried to lift the rear with the hoe bucket.

Am I missing something?? Thanks.
First of all - stuck is stuck ....BTDT.....

The bucket CURL is the most powerful on the tractor, teeth down you should rise up.......the hoe will do it too.......be careful there.....one wrong "move" in mud and the machine will end up dirty on top!

do you have tree or pole near by? take backhoe -extend it and then latch chain around and see if it will pull backwards.......you are going to have to be facing forward in seat .....or override the safety switches.

keep bucket low and if you can chain/strap high on tree - and ease on the sticks - again the curl on the hoe is stronger than anything else
 

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Did you try them one at a time? There is only so much hydraulic pump to go around. If you push the control lever all the way I believe the first item in the circuit takes all the hydraulic oil and if it can't move the relief valve dumps the rest of the oil.
 

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You ask, "Am I missing something??"

Probably patience. If your tractor is buried all the way to frame there may be enough suction you're not breaking it loose.

Sometimes you can put your bucket down and roll the cutting edge up some so you have a smooth bottom and backside down on the muck. Then use your hoe to pick up the rear (which will allow your bucket to then work as a sled, and keep the front up some) and work at moving out backwards.

If you can't go backwards try to pull yourself to one side or the other.

Keep working at it until you figure out what's keeping you in the mush, and what it takes with your machine to move.

This is the best school there is to learn how to get out of a predicament. If you never get stuck you'll never know how to get out!!!
 

Chris11

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First of all - stuck is stuck ....BTDT.....

The bucket CURL is the most powerful on the tractor, teeth down you should rise up.......the hoe will do it too.......be careful there.....one wrong "move" in mud and the machine will end up dirty on top!

do you have tree or pole near by? take backhoe -extend it and then latch chain around and see if it will pull backwards.......you are going to have to be facing forward in seat .....or override the safety switches.

keep bucket low and if you can chain/strap high on tree - and ease on the sticks - again the curl on the hoe is stronger than anything else
No pole, tree or anything else to attach something to. Im in the middle of a field....a really wet field.
 

Chris11

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Did you try them one at a time? There is only so much hydraulic pump to go around. If you push the control lever all the way I believe the first item in the circuit takes all the hydraulic oil and if it can't move the relief valve dumps the rest of the oil.
I tried it all I thought ....but thanks for the info that the first item takes all the pressure. I'll keep that in mind when I attempt the rescue tomorrow.
 

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I would try to take out some plywood-2 half sheets or larger or more. Put one under the bucket and one under the backhoe. If you have more, put some under the stabilizers. Lift and drag. Repeat as needed.

Bruce
 

Chris11

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You ask, "Am I missing something??"

Probably patience. If your tractor is buried all the way to frame there may be enough suction you're not breaking it loose.

Sometimes you can put your bucket down and roll the cutting edge up some so you have a smooth bottom and backside down on the muck. Then use your hoe to pick up the rear (which will allow your bucket to then work as a sled, and keep the front up some) and work at moving out backwards.

If you can't go backwards try to pull yourself to one side or the other.

Keep working at it until you figure out what's keeping you in the mush, and what it takes with your machine to move.

This is the best school there is to learn how to get out of a predicament. If you never get stuck you'll never know how to get out!!!
The one thing I didn't try was moving to the side. One side is against a cross fence, the front is against the load I was attempting to push and so I do have one side to attempt to snooze it over to. Tomorrow should be close to freezing in the morning...makes the ground hard for you Florida people...lol...so I'll try it again. But I'm still wondering why the front bucket didn't lift the front end as I'm certain it used to when new...2 years ago. I just thought...I never tried to put down the stabilizers to raise the back end. Tomorrow.

By the way...even when new the friggin hydraulics to the stabilizers would leak down which people on here told me was normal. I used to be able to hold a deer up with a front end loader for 2 weeks with my old John Deere. I'm not impressed with this first to me Kubota.
 

Chris11

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I would try to take out some plywood-2 half sheets or larger or more. Put one under the bucket and one under the backhoe. If you have more, put some under the stabilizers. Lift and drag. Repeat as needed.

I'll try that with the stabilizers....didn't think of using them tonight at all. But the front bucket was on the ground so I don't think the xtra 2 inches will matter. the front bucket wouldn't lift the front end...:confused:

I'll try the rear bucket on the ground to move it over though. Thanks.
 

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Make sure you keep the engine speed up. The hydraulic pump is positive displacement... more speed ... more oil flow ... more pressure ... more power.
 

Chris11

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Make sure you keep the engine speed up. The hydraulic pump is positive displacement... more speed ... more oil flow ... more pressure ... more power.
Yep...at the time I had the rpm up at 3000. In the past I wondered if there was a problem with my pump since it didn't seem to do the work it should have at whatever rpm.
 

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Mud may be creating a little suction as well the weight of it packed in to the wheels and other parts. Bucket curl as mentioned has the most power.
Little moves may get you moving.
 

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Might need to ask neighbor for help either with a 2500 or 3500 diesel engine chevy or similar sized truck to help pull. A dozer with a winch. If you have a local sawmill that has some scrap pile with a few big thick boards at least 2" thick could use as suggested with plywood. oak is real heavy but durable popular is lighter so use thicker if possible. After you are pulled out and clean tractor up. You may have a fan broke under tractor if it got up under tractor all the way. If not out from ways suggested. Do not be afraid to take pictures for help with ideas to help you pull you out.


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skeets

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Yeah pictures,,, like none of us has ever been there before,,,,snicker:rolleyes:
 

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Now if you happen to have a load of chain, and good stout tree hook it to the BH bucket and pull your self back out and if you can,,, put something under the out riggers and lift the back end up put planks wood logs anything unterh the tires,, pull the out riggers ALL the way up,, and use the hoe to pull and the wheels to turn,, and Im thinking you should get out ok,,,
 

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On youtube there are videos from the underdeveloped world of people getting their tractors unstuck by chaining logs across the rear tires and then backing up. The logs are like giant fingers and it is amazing whet these guys can get out of the swamp. Although these guys do it I suggest you never want to go forward as the tractor can flip over backwards.
I never had the nerve to try this and am only mentioning it. Find a friend with a much bigger machine and a long chain or cable. Dont risk your life with the log scheme|!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnRRGW6z3UQ
Dave M7040
 

wardsfarmnj

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This idea is a bit dependent on how far in the mud/if there is enough room. Basically I have lot of marl around my house especially close to the large creek that runs by my house. I just had this issue and was in a position I really couldn't get my truck in close enough to get the tractor out. My dad while in the middle of a field on his farm in Minnesota used this technique on a lot larger tractor than my BX1500.

Basically he dug out enough mud he could get under the tractor to jack it up with a jack. So you dig out enough you can slide a board and a jack under the tractor than jack the tractor up enough to slide boards/plywood whatever you have under the the tires. Now in my case I took a few logs put them under the bucket and got the front out by pushing down on the logs and get the front up enough that I could get boards/wood under the front tires. You could of course do the same for the front if the bucket curl/lift wasn't working anymore. I think I dropped chains from an old tractor behind the wood so the tires would grab them as I backed out.

I have since added a trailer receiver to the front and back so that I can use a winch system to get me out.
 

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I will add if you have someone that has a piece of equipment that can get you out wait for them. My system was done out of necessity because the creek I mentioned floods to where I had the tractor stuck and there were thunderstorms coming through. In my dads case he had gotten another piece of equipment stuck.