BX Bucket Klang

[davidwarner63]

Hello All,

I noticed that the bucket on my BX1850 mages a 'klang' type noise when it reaches the end of it's dump cycle. At first I thought the fittings might be worn or that I damaged the bucket by trying to lift too heavy objects or by backdragging*. However, while watching youtube videos, I noticed that most (if not all) the BX buckets seem to make this noise. Does anybody know the cause of this noise and perhaps a way to dampen the dump cycle or prevent the noise in some other way. I suppose it's normal and not doing any damage but I find it annoying.

*Backdragging...I'm not sure if this is the correct term where the bucket is used while traveling in reverse to smooth a surface. I think I read somewhere that this should not be done and could damage the tractor or bucket. But, it seems like lots of people do this. Could it be damaging?

Thanks all for your thoughts

 

[Lil Foot]

Can't help with the klang issue, but back dragging is a very common practice. I have heard several times that tractors like the 1850 that only have a single curl cylinder are more prone to damage from heavy back dragging, simply because all the force is concentrated on the nut/threads of the single cylinder, rather than being shared by two cylinders. I think if you're sensible about it, it shouldn't be a problem. If you push the edge of the bucket down far enough to lift the front wheels off the ground, go as fast as possible in reverse over rocky ground, you're asking for trouble. (I watched a guy do just that, and he couldn't understand why he sheared the nut off the curl ram-damn cheap Kubota tractors!)

 

[Little Orange]

As for the noise could be the backside of the bucket hitting the curl stop metal, might help to put a small piece of rubber or furniture felt pad on the stop jamb (may not last too long depending on how much work is done).

As for back blading use the heel as a push/pull blade/plow on LOOSE MATERIAL ONLY. Did I say that loud enough.

One way is to push the material forward with the bucket (curled up) heel (then you know it is loose) and either pull back with the heel again or curl the bucket down slightly and pull back, this gives a nice smooth flat surface and presses down slightly the loose material.

By moving loose material only you will begin to know the limits of the machine.

 

[GWD]

The "klang" is most definitely the bucket hitting the stops on full dump.

Back dragging can be done without damage but it pays to be careful. I always (well, 99% of the time) put the bucket in float mode. Then, as you come to the end of where you are dragging just curl the bucket while still in float and it evens out the end point.

In float the bucket is free to move up or down with the terrain so damage is much less a possibility. Sometimes it is necessary to go over an area multiple times if the piles are fairly high.

It takes only a little practice.

 

[Bulldog]

As for the noise could be the backside of the bucket hitting the curl stop metal, might help to put a small piece of rubber or furniture felt pad on the stop jamb (may not last too long depending on how much work is done).

As for back blading use the heel as a push/pull blade/plow on LOOSE MATERIAL ONLY. Did I say that loud enough.

One way is to push the material forward with the bucket (curled up) heel (then you know it is loose) and either pull back with the heel again or curl the bucket down slightly and pull back, this gives a nice smooth flat surface and presses down slightly the loose material.

By moving loose material only you will begin to know the limits of the machine.

Not trying to start a arguement but the "heel" of the bucket is not made for pushing material forward or backwards. All this will do is wear the back of the bucket and the arms out. I have seen this happen and as a result of operator error the entire boom and bucket had to be replaced.

Buckets have cutting edges for a reason, they're made for cutting material.

 

[MXBX]

I had also read about back dragging as a way to level out the soil and did so today after working an area. Thanks for the tips on the precautions. Maybe I do need a box blade.

 

[Tooljunkie]

I just replaced all the pivots on loader/bucket. The clang isnt as bad now. All i can say is regular greasing with good quality greasing will give pins much longer life. They were done at 2700 hours. Then operator ran it for three weeks without greasing- i wasnt happy.