Box Scraper VS Grading Scraper - l2501 - Which to choose?

[NHSleddog]

Potholes.

Living in NH we have no shortage of pot holes etc.

Anytime you see a pot hole it is caused by what is under it. recurring pot holes will still recur long after you are dead unless the issue under it is resolved.

Land plane, box blade, rear blade doesn't matter that pothole will be back right after a few trips.

Up here it is usually a rock or surface ledge that does it.

Rocks before/after are high spot/low spot. The car raises (bumps) over the high spot and then pounds down into the low spot. Until the rock is removed the pot hole will always be there. As soon as that starts, water collection starts and that makes it worse. (water is one of the best soil compactors).

Surface ledge will pool water in odd ways that will cause repeating pot holes as well.

I guess my point is, the worst way to FIX a pothole is to just fill it in.

 

[random]

I guess my point is, the worst way to FIX a pothole is to just fill it in.

Perhaps, but sometimes just filling it is the optimal solution. I have several potholes in my mile of road - many of them I just refill periodically, simply because the work and money required to "fix" them is significantly more than I would spend over the next 20 years just filling them now and then.

Personally, if that were my driveway, I would go with the land plane, unless I intended to do a significant amount of reworking of it.

 

[i7win7]

Specialty products are available for road grading

Hoelscher Commercial Products - RB Scraper

Hoelscher is a Bushton, Kansas hay baling equipment and earth moving equipment manufacturer.

www.hoelscherinc.com

 

[NHSleddog]

Perhaps, but sometimes just filling it is the optimal solution. I have several potholes in my mile of road - many of them I just refill periodically, simply because the work and money required to "fix" them is significantly more than I would spend over the next 20 years just filling them now and then.

Personally, if that were my driveway, I would go with the land plane, unless I intended to do a significant amount of reworking of it.

I said to FIX the pothole, not patch it. The easiest way to patch it is to dump a bucket of material in it but that will not fix the pothole.


And I totally agree if you don't want to actually fix it, don't waste the time/money.

 

[NHSleddog]

Specialty products are available for road grading

Hoelscher Commercial Products - RB Scraper

Hoelscher is a Bushton, Kansas hay baling equipment and earth moving equipment manufacturer.

www.hoelscherinc.com

Those are really nice.

After blading/building I will often times use my roller to put an initial "set" back into the road. That is one of the main complaints I have with a plane for the job is the loose surface it leaves when done.

 

[jimh406]

Tornado’s explanation is pretty good. Great job.

I went with a landplane/grading scraper because it is supposed to much easier for an inexperienced person to use since you don’t have to raise/lower the blade just to get rid of material. It seems like experienced people prefer the box blade. I have a 1/4 mile driveway, so I don’t see using a box blade to touch up when I could simply drive back and forth with a grading scraper.

As far as crown goes, the blades are angled, and can push gravel from the side to the middle.

I suggest watching some youtube videos on both. One video that sold me on the grading scraper was a cleanup job that a guy was doing for his friend. It was literally amazing how big of change he made with only the grading scraper. He got rid of grass etc as well a revitalizing. Almost all of the before/after type videos are pretty helpful.

A bonus is supposedly a landplane/grading scraper takes less power.

 

[Jamdavis]

I have a 600ft stone drive and chose the Land Pride Landplane for it's claim of very easy to use and love it. You can work a crown with adjustments using the 48" Landplane. I had a few pot holes and used the scarifying teeth on the Landplane to break up the stone around the pot holes. Applied 3/4 open quarry rock on top and then ran the Landplane back and forth and for the last year no reoccurring pot holes. I run the Landplane once a month to maintain the drive and it makes me look like I almost know what I am doing. I'm no expert and the Landplane is easy to use with very minimal adjustments. Still want a box blade in the future, Never can have enough attachments!

 

[BD-KUB]

I attached a few pics, right now its frozen so its pretty solid. As soon as it thaws it becomes a mess, my reason for wanting to add some material. I just purchased the property, so I don't know whats under the top layer or this history. All i know is that its been neglected.

Update:

I ended up buying a Land pride BB1266 (66") and I'm pleased with the results, it went pretty well considering it was my first time using a box scraper. Here's a few after shots:

 

[River19]

Update:

I ended up buying a Land pride BB1266 (66") and I'm pleased with the results, it went pretty well considering it was my first time using a box scraper. Here's a few after shots:

Awesome.

You're the customer so as long as you are happy with the results. It looks good.

I found with the BB trial and error and making small adjustments helped me up the learning curve along with a few you tube vids

Good luck !!!!

 

[RepairmanJared]

I maintain a 2k ft or so private road and my driveway etc, I had a box scraper and did not like the results I switched to a Box Grader just recently and its like night and day. That being said they sell a lot of different versions of them some with scarifies some without etc. I took several inches of material from the shoulders of my road and either moved it into the road or reclaimed and piled it for later use.

I found that I could do everything my box blade could do but a lot easier to control with the grading scraper I set the left side about an inch higher than the right and since the blades are already angled for the right to left the materially already naturally gets moved to the left so by raising the implement slightly while moving I get that left side a bit off the ground and can deposit the material in that area if I don't want to deposit it there I let it just float or dig depending on what I am trying to accomplish.

My problem with the box blade was all it wanted to do is dig it had no skids so it was a lot harder to keep it from digging to much where's the grader will only dig as much as you have the top link set for that front blade angle.

I made a video with before and after

I thought it turned out great and I am only about 6 hours into using it and am only getting better with it. I did my driveway yesterday and beside my shed and think I did even better, once you get the feel for it you can really easily control it. Also someone said you can't push with it you can with mine, you can even get a second set of blades that go on the reverse side if you want.