Box Blade for my BX25d

[trrads]

Hi all,

I found a frontier BB2048 (John Deere) box blade near my home on craigslist. Just wondering if this attachment would be ok to use on my BX25.

Thanks.

 

[Bmbbm]

Hi all,

I found a frontier BB2048 (John Deere) box blade near my home on craigslist. Just wondering if this attachment would be ok to use on my BX25.

Thanks.

BB2048? does that mean its 48 inches? If that's the case it will work fine. Anything bigger might be pushing it.

 

[85Hokie]

Hi all,

I found a frontier BB2048 (John Deere) box blade near my home on craigslist. Just wondering if this attachment would be ok to use on my BX25.

Thanks.

I think it will be fine - might not take full deep cuts, but if used "correctly" you ought to be fine.

Changing the length of the top link will change the characteristics of it quite a bit.

 

[Ramos]

I have a 48" Land Pride and a BX1870. They are very well matched in my opinion. I run out of traction, not power.

 

[trrads]

The land pride bb1248 which I think is the recommended box blade for the bx25 weighs 312 lbs while the frontier bb2048 that I'm considering weighs 355 lbs. I can't imagine the weight is the only factor determining compatibility, but 43 lbs more than the land pride seems like might be ok. Agree or am I missing more important details when comparing equipment?

 

[AndyM]

I looked at a picture of the BB2048 and it looks the spitting images to what I have. I am new at box bladeing but can say after about 10 hours the BX25 handled it very well from a pulling point of view. I am finding the height adjustment a little tricky - something I have heard elsewhere is an issue with the BX 25.

That said, I am fairly pleased with the results.

 

[trrads]

What about the bx25 makes it difficult to adjust the box blade?

 

[Ramos]

I don't think the weight difference between the two is of any significance. That difference could even be that one is the implement weight and the other is shipping weight. Would not worry me, regardless. The BX series three point takes a bit of practice to master as you can't simply move the lever down to a certain point to return to a given depth. Tightening the restrictor control knob to slow the drop was helpful for me. The more you do it, the more natural it will feel!

 

[Grouse Feathers]

What about the bx25 makes it difficult to adjust the box blade?

There is no 3 point level control on a BX. On a BX you have a lever that moves the 3 point up or down and returns to neutral.
On a tractor with level control, also called "position control", you set the lever and the level control maintains the 3 point height corresponding to the lever position while allowing for float. While the tractor is running the level control always maintains the 3 point height to the corresponding lever position so you can make multiple passes at the same height after raising the implement to turn.
With the BX you are constantly guessing and adjusting to get the right height, and the 3 point is constantly sagging even with the tractor running, requiring additional adjustments. Even a grader scraper designed to float will only float up from the starting height and you have to hold the lever in the down position to allow the 3 point to float in the down direction.

 

[Ramos]

There is no 3 point level control on a BX. On a BX you have a lever that moves the 3 point up or down and returns to neutral.
On a tractor with level control, also called "position control", you set the lever and the level control maintains the 3 point height corresponding to the lever position while allowing for float. While the tractor is running the level control always maintains the 3 point height to the corresponding lever position so you can make multiple passes at the same height after raising the implement to turn.
With the BX you are constantly guessing and adjusting to get the right height, and the 3 point is constantly sagging even with the tractor running, requiring additional adjustments. Even a grader scraper designed to float will only float up from the starting height and you have to hold the lever in the down position to allow the 3 point to float in the down direction.

I have to disagree with part of what you are saying. On my BX, the 3 point does not 'sag' while running, even at lower RPM's. Also, it allows the implement to float up, the only down force being the weight of the implement. The only difference from a regular "position control" and the BX is playing with the lever to find the desired depth as opposed to moving the lever to a particular position. Yes, it requires more 'fiddling' to get there but, it acts like a standard 3 point once it is there. May be that something is not operating correctly on your unit, Grouse Feathers?

 

[Grouse Feathers]

I have to disagree with part of what you are saying. On my BX, the 3 point does not 'sag' while running, even at lower RPM's. Also, it allows the implement to float up, the only down force being the weight of the implement. The only difference from a regular "position control" and the BX is playing with the lever to find the desired depth as opposed to moving the lever to a particular position. Yes, it requires more 'fiddling' to get there but, it acts like a standard 3 point once it is there. May be that something is not operating correctly on your unit, Grouse Feathers?

Maybe your 3 point does not sag noticeably with something like a 150# landscape rake while you are using it, but put on a 450# counterweight for serious loader work and you will notice the 3 point sagging as you use it. A regular position control would hold the level.
Yes if you put a 3 point implement on the ground it will float up on uneven ground, but it will not float down as you cross uneven ground unless you hold the lever down.

 

[OrangeBX]

355# is better than 312# for box blades and rear blades etc, all else being equal, IMHO. That's also fine for the BX.
DB

 

[AndyM]

I think Grouse Feathers pretty much nailed the control issues I was talking about. Yes I can feather the BB down fine, but as the BX has a short wheel base a little change in front means a change is required in back to keep things level. Getting the BB up in quick, small increments seems to tax the pump big time. Admit I am running only @2200 rpm so that could be part of the issue but as I just passed 50 hrs was reluctant to push it up to the high end.

 

[Grouse Feathers]

I think Grouse Feathers pretty much nailed the control issues I was talking about. Yes I can feather the BB down fine, but as the BX has a short wheel base a little change in front means a change is required in back to keep things level. Getting the BB up in quick, small increments seems to tax the pump big time. Admit I am running only @2200 rpm so that could be part of the issue but as I just passed 50 hrs was reluctant to push it up to the high end.

There are a couple of adjustable stops under the fender for the 3 point control lever. The idea is with your BB on the 3 point you adjust the stops so when you quickly move the lever to the stop and release it the 3 point will move the implement up or down 1/4 inch. Not a super good system, but it can help if you keep it adjusted.
I think you might want to vary your engine speed some. I ran mine during break-in at various speeds for about 5 minutes at a time up to 3000 rpm. I had to run over 2200 rpm because I bought it in December for snow blowing. 2200 rpm would just plug the chute.

 

[AndyM]

There are a couple of adjustable stops under the fender for the 3 point control lever. The idea is with your BB on the 3 point you adjust the stops so when you quickly move the lever to the stop and release it the 3 point will move the implement up or down 1/4 inch. Not a super good system, but it can help if you keep it adjusted.
I think you might want to vary your engine speed some. I ran mine during break-in at various speeds for about 5 minutes at a time up to 3000 rpm. I had to run over 2200 rpm because I bought it in December for snow blowing. 2200 rpm would just plug the chute.

Thanks I will have a look under the fender tomorrow. Didn't know about that. Will also give the rpm a raise.