B6100 fel, hyd pump, drive, and mounting bracket. Possable doner models?

[David wallace]

Are there models besides the b7100 and b6100 I can wach for to find the parts for mounting a frunt hyd pump for a loader install.
Like mabe a b5100? Granted it's a 2 cylinder so it's drive shaft could be a different length. But same pump and bracket mabe?
Probably grasping at hot air on that.
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The doner loader a 219 I have came from a b6000 and it's obviously a reverse rotation engine, thus a completely different way of the engine driving the pump. Even though it's the same loader model. So I could run in to other oddities I gess.

 

[Russell King]

I think you would be watching for those parts to come available for a long time!

See these two threads for ideas on how to get it done without finding the original parts.

B6100 front loader hydraulic pump

curious, I googled 'kubota b219' and 1st hit was the manual, at www.kubotabooks.com. you should download that as it should be full of 'neat information'.... Thanks. I found it. I wish I had in in 1980 when I put the unit together with no instruction manual. I did not see pump specifications...

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B7100D hydraulics and adding a FEL

Hi All, I'm new here but have been lurking for quite a while trying to find some answers...I created an account to ask the questions directly and hopefully someone can help. My local Kubota dealership has been less than helpful. I have a 1981 B7100D 4WD tractor, NOT a hydrostatic drive. I got...

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[Russell King]

And you can probably run a loader off of the hydraulic pump on the tractor.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Yep run the loader off the Tractor Hydraulics.

 

[PoTreeBoy]

The doner loader a 219 I have came from a b6000 and it's obviously a reverse rotation engine, thus a completely different way of the engine driving the pump. Even though it's the same loader model. So I could run in to other oddities I gess.

The PTO on the B6000 runs 'backwards' but I think the engine runs standard rotation.

 

[David wallace]

Was thinking it used transmission gear oil, in the pump behind the IP?
or there's a hyd tank I haven't found yet.
Haa did a search, same fluid, for bolth, 3pt and gear trans.
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That would work for the loader, my idea for this b6100. is a dedicated large firewood block buster. Are b7100 would reman forks or bucket with the frame mount backhoe.
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Does That 3pt pump have a fixed oem psi setting, or can its pressure be increased without risking something going boom? I know 3k psi is commonly used for splitter rams. I'm gessing it's less then that for oem setting. I'm just wanting to get the wood under 80lb chunks over rounds averaging around 2+ foot.
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Option C would be the pto drive I gess.
With its own set of problems.
I'd rather have something else driven off the pto, like someday hyd drive for an elevator and tumbler.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Was thinking it used transmission gear oil, in the pump behind the IP?
or there's a hyd tank I haven't found yet.
Haa did a search, same fluid, for bolth, 3pt and gear trans.
.
That would work for the loader, my idea for this b6100. is a dedicated large firewood block buster. Are b7100 would reman forks or bucket with the frame mount backhoe.
.
Does That 3pt pump have a fixed oem psi setting, or can its pressure be increased without risking something going boom? I know 3k psi is commonly used for splitter rams. I'm gessing it's less then that for oem setting. I'm just wanting to get the wood under 80lb chunks over rounds averaging around 2+ foot.
.
Option C would be the pto drive I gess.
With its own set of problems.
I'd rather have something else driven off the pto, like someday hyd drive for an elevator and tumbler.

Whatever you do put UTTO in the tractor transmission.

Pumps are not typically self regulated. Maximum pressure is controlled with an externsl relief. Most control valves come with an adjustable inlet pressure relief built into the valve.

Maximum allowable working pressure is determined by the individual components in the system. You are limited by the weakest component used so you have to check the indivudual specifications.

A 5" cylinder will generate 50T of force @ 2550 PSI. Your issue using any pump is going to be cycle time not splitting force.

Its relatively easy and inexpensive to build a crankshaft driven pump from scratch. I have personally built dozens

Dan

 

[PoTreeBoy]

Was thinking it used transmission gear oil, in the pump behind the IP?
or there's a hyd tank I haven't found yet.
Haa did a search, same fluid, for bolth, 3pt and gear trans.

As TheOldHokie said, use the same Universal Tractor Fluid in the transmission and hydraulic system, if you go separate.

I think that model loader used one of the loader towers as the sump. Does one of them have pipe fittings installed?

 

[Russell King]

Perhaps a PTO driven hydraulic system can satisfy your current and future needs?

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