Another 1st Time Buyer Help Thread

[GreensvilleJay]

OK not 'needed' but sure make the job EASY. Kubota dealer did mine in 2-3 minutes, in front of me,on my pad. Reasonably dry(indoor) gravel would be ok.... On the spongy sod with ruts, wet white coming down, I'm pretty sure most would agree 'not fun'. The older I get the less I want to have the 'fun' of changing implements. Hands up, all those 75 or older and like to have 'fun' ????

An 8000 hr tractor might be a good deal IF all the service records were there. Say the engine had major overhaul 200 hrs ago.it's 'brand new'. HST rebuilt 500 hrs ago, basically new as well.
The problem is NOT knowing the history of the tractor or implement when it has high hours or 'old'.

 

[PaulL]

I think an M is bigger than you need, and an HST is an advantage. Given you have hills, I think 4wd is a good idea, it's a good idea in general on a modern tractor.

L or Grand L would be great for the size/tasks you describe.

It sounds like you have a bit more flexibility on price if you do payments, I think I'd look closely at a Grand-L new, around the 40hp mark. Messicks had this video just the other day, worth looking at: Three different sized 40hp tractors.

Looks to me like you could get into a brand new L4060 with reasonable payments, and it'd be hard to regret that. You can accumulate implements over time, but buying the tractor itself is kind of a one time thing (not entirely - they hold their value OK so you can sell and buy something different, but easier to buy right the first time).

If not the Grand-L, then my next choice would be standard L (a bit cheaper, but in my mind not a lot cheaper given what you give up), or MX (a bit larger for not much more money). All those look to be around $35-45K, but you'd get 5 year payments so that'd spread the pain out a bit.

 

[D2Cat]

If you decide to go with a used tractor I'd suggest look for an Lxx40 series machine. They go up to 57 HP, have many nice features and the last series before the govt mandates began.

I looked for about 6-7 months when I knew what I wanted and found one in Jackson, Tn. @ Byrd Equipment with about 600 hrs. A few phone conversations, a lot of pictures and I had it delivered sight unseen. Been absolutely everything I wished it was, no problems what-so-ever. Only thing I've added is the 3rd function so I can use a grapple. I've had it five years and have 1065 hrs on it.

It's HST and 4o hp, and I prefer it over any std. transmission tractor. I have 50 acres at my farm, only about 25 has grass, rest is creek and timber. I've got two std trans tractors, one 60HP, one 75hp. They are good old working tractors but the HST is WAY more enjoyable to operate.

 

[PoTreeBoy]

If you decide to go with a used tractor I'd suggest look for an Lxx40 series machine. They go up to 57 HP, have many nice features and the last series before the govt mandates began.

I looked for about 6-7 months when I knew what I wanted and found one in Jackson, Tn. @ Byrd Equipment with about 600 hrs. A few phone conversations, a lot of pictures and I had it delivered sight unseen. Been absolutely everything I wished it was, no problems what-so-ever. Only thing I've added is the 3rd function so I can use a grapple. I've had it five years and have 1065 hrs on it.

It's HST and 4o hp, and I prefer it over any std. transmission tractor. I have 50 acres at my farm, only about 25 has grass, rest is creek and timber. I've got two std trans tractors, one 60HP, one 75hp. They are good old working tractors but the HST is WAY more enjoyable to operate.

Byrd's good folks.

 

[D2Cat]

Byrd's good folks.

Couldn't ask for nicer, more helpful people. They answered every question I had, and if they didn't know right then they'd call back when they had an answer. I got the name of the guy who traded it in (after they confirmed it would be OK if I called him) and found out everything since it was new, why he traded, what he trader for, how he used it, any dislikes..... I'd highly recommend them. I think I was dealing with the owners son.

He traded it in because he wanted a cab, especially when he was mowing!

 

[Runs With Scissors]

If I had more heavy duty tasks, this would be top of my list.

Here is the "definitive answer"

I sat on one a few months ago, and was "duly impressed".

I get "wood" just thinking about that backhoe....Not to mention the nearly 2 ton FEL capacity!!!!

If I ever trade the General Lee in, this will be his replacement.

 

[GentlemanFarmer]

Hi, Everyone,
This is my first time on this site and purchasing a tractor. I just recently purchased approx 24 acres of mixed land, wooded and agricultural.
And of course am now looking to purchase some equipment to work on the property.
I've come across a B2630 with a cab loader/backhoe and many other implements (snow blower. brush hog, mower, rototiller, box blade and more) with 3500hrs, for just over 30K$ (CAD).
Although i currently don't have many details (more will follow shortly) I'm concerned about the number of hours.
i'm going to check out the unit in the next few days and get it's history and maintenance don't thus far.

Is 33500hrs alarming and is the price fair?

also what would you suggest i look for when inspecting the unit?

thank you

 

[fried1765]

re: Would love to get an excavator attachment

hmm... backhoe ?? NO , every BH on a tractor is slooooooooow compared to a 'mini excavtor' AND you've said bush hog, driveway mtce, possible tiller for garden. Unless you have a big level concrete pad remove/install the BH can be a 'challenge'. Consider( write in down) actual jobs and time.... RENT a miniex, it'll be faster, easier over all. Heck, pick one small job, and rent a BX23S from Homedepot and see how it operates.

I KNOW it's NOT fast or easy, I've had mine for 6 years, BH has never been off(neighbours would kill me....), 3PH is still in the box. In MY case, BH is used at least 2 days a week except in Winter. Overall the small TLB does what I want(though I'm not on a hurry..).

Knowledge is power, ask,ask, ask.......write it down.....

If a person can afford TWO machines, then a mini excavator is a good idea.
However, the TLB is the Swiss Army knife of dirt moving machines.

 

[fried1765]

If I had more heavy duty tasks, this would be top of my list.

Here is the "definitive answer"

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I sat on one a few months ago, and was "duly impressed".

I get "wood" just thinking about that backhoe....Not to mention the nearly 2 ton FEL capacity!!!!

If I ever trade the General Lee in, this will be his replacement.

Bring your wallet!
A new M62 is approaching $100K !

 

[GreensvilleJay]

Hi, Everyone,
This is my first time on this site and purchasing a tractor. I just recently purchased approx 24 acres of mixed land, wooded and agricultural.
And of course am now looking to purchase some equipment to work on the property.
I've come across a B2630 with a cab loader/backhoe and many other implements (snow blower. brush hog, mower, rototiller, box blade and more) with 3500hrs, for just over 30K$ (CAD).
Although i currently don't have many details (more will follow shortly) I'm concerned about the number of hours.
i'm going to check out the unit in the next few days and get it's history and maintenance don't thus far.

Is 33500hrs alarming and is the price fair?

also what would you suggest i look for when inspecting the unit?

thank you

see how OLD it is ! I have a 6 year old BX23S with 1400 hrs, so curious how long it took to get 3500 on that machine ?
Take a LOT of pictures of it,every angle, under the hood,look for 'wear and tear'.
FWIW, the BX23S in close to $35K + 13% taxes of course.....,NO cab, NO implements so.......
it 'could' be a GREAT deal.....

however my 'spideysense' says it might be a scam ....OR there's something serious wrong with it.
Heck those 5 implements might be $15-$20K...!!!

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Bring your wallet!
A new M62 is approaching $100K !

Everything has gone nuts, that's for sure.

I walked out of Wendy's yesterday because I looked at the menu and a spicy chicken combo was $10.58

 

[GentlemanFarmer]

see how OLD it is ! I have a 6 year old BX23S with 1400 hrs, so curious how long it took to get 3500 on that machine ?
Take a LOT of pictures of it,every angle, under the hood,look for 'wear and tear'.
FWIW, the BX23S in close to $35K + 13% taxes of course.....,NO cab, NO implements so.......
it 'could' be a GREAT deal.....

however my 'spideysense' says it might be a scam ....OR there's something serious wrong with it.
Heck those 5 implements might be $15-$20K...!!!

Thanks for the reply, I've scheduled a meetup this week-end. Going to go see it live and run. Will take many pics and report back.

Yeah I got excited when I saw all the included implements, but the hours does concern me and i'm wondering if I'll end up pumping $$$ to keep it running.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

it might be 'too good to be true'...... just be careful......
or it might be the deal of the century !
No, wait, sorry, I got that 20 years ago....40HP tractor,2 implements, $500.

 

[GrumpyFarmer]

Good day.

Homesteading means different things to different people. So let’s start with what that means for your tasks.

Personally I’d try to figure out what you plan to lift and move…do you have a plan to have animals where you will move bales of hay or totes of water? Or will you plan to move pallets of feed or seed or fertilizer out a truck?

Basically I’d encourage you to think long term about how much weight you might want to lift and move/ transfer and I’d recommend you have some SWLL beyond just the nominal number of what you want to lift.

If you are not sure about those things then it’s just guessing. You may guess right, or maybe not. Your scope of work could change too…I’d recommend buy at least one size larger than you think you need.

If planning to keep for a while, try thinking about all the tasks you want to do on the farm for the next 5-10yrs. Then figure what size implement you might need for those things.

Determining size of implements and what you want to lift will start to make some decisions for you.

Good luck.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

hmm, 'homesteading'. saw a TV show 'homestead rescue' , kinda neat and scary at the same time. Host and kids are great( from Alaska ?? ) but gee, WHAT were some of the 'homesteaders' THINKING ? I applaud them for wanting to do it, but, gee, 1st grab a pen and paper...write stuff down, read up on it, use the Internet BEFORE you commit. Having 'animals' IS a 24/7 JOB. THEY need protection, food,water, care,space and SOME animals are 'wrong' for most homesteads ( 3 horses and 17 roosters comes to mind....)
BIG thing is to KNOW HOW you're going to take care of them IN THE WINTER(snow ,col, ice ), Spring thaw( mud= no access ). Hmm, heating with wood ? You'll need CORDs of firewood, not .face cors, REAL cords and lots of them. When you're not tending animals or crops, you'll be cutting,splitting firewood. There's a LOT to consider....

 

[Gasifier]

Well, @Gasifier has an L45 listed in For Sale in PA. Don't know if OP wants a backhoe.

Well, @Gasifier has an L45 listed in For Sale in PA. Don't know if OP wants a backhoe.

Tractor and I are in NY. It’s still for sale with optional attachments.

For Sale: Kubota L45 Tractor Loader Backhoe & QA Snow Plow

2014 Kubota L45 Tractor Loader Backhoe Series 1652 hours and going up slowly as being used. These TLB series tractors are NOT the same as their agricultural counterparts. These are built for commercial construction use. Stronger loader, stronger backhoe, stronger frame, stronger hydraulic...

www.orangetractortalks.com

 

[PoTreeBoy]

Tractor and I are in NY. It’s still for sale with optional attachments.

For Sale: Kubota L45 Tractor Loader Backhoe & QA Snow Plow

2014 Kubota L45 Tractor Loader Backhoe Series 1652 hours and going up slowly as being used. These TLB series tractors are NOT the same as their agricultural counterparts. These are built for commercial construction use. Stronger loader, stronger backhoe, stronger frame, stronger hydraulic...

www.orangetractortalks.com

I thought your signature said PA. That's a little further.

 

[pandemic326]

First let me thank you all for all the information. Really helped ramp up my education. Went and visited my local Kubota dealer and am looking at the MX6000. 4wd, HST for loader work, great rear pto HP, and a loader that has plenty of lift capacity. Decision i am trying to settle now is Cab vs no cab (see advantages to both). Will be using this thing in VA, year round. Like the idea of heat during cold weather. And who is gonna complain about A/C. But the 10k bump in price and then additional "things that can now go wrong" just has me wondering if its worth it in the end. Yes i know i mentioned some work in the woods and the open cab was recommended for that reason. So perhaps I should stop second guessing and just take that as my sign to save the money and go that route.

Second thing is questioning attachments up front. Quoted quite a few, but all new attachments really jumps the total at the end. So thinking of just sticking with the front end loader, maybe grapple bucket, and post hole digger (looking at the hydraulic front mount option) to start. Leave the bush hog, pallet forks, blade, and such for down the road and possibly from the used market to save some money.

Things i am thinking that i want to make sure the tractor absolutely has up front are 3rd function and dual rear remotes. Anything else? also someone mentioned to make sure it has a live pto. Not sure what that means?

 

[McMXi]

First let me thank you all for all the information. Really helped ramp up my education. Went and visited my local Kubota dealer and am looking at the MX6000. 4wd, HST for loader work, great rear pto HP, and a loader that has plenty of lift capacity. Decision i am trying to settle now is Cab vs no cab (see advantages to both). Will be using this thing in VA, year round. Like the idea of heat during cold weather. And who is gonna complain about A/C. But the 10k bump in price and then additional "things that can now go wrong" just has me wondering if its worth it in the end. Yes i know i mentioned some work in the woods and the open cab was recommended for that reason. So perhaps I should stop second guessing and just take that as my sign to save the money and go that route.

Second thing is questioning attachments up front. Quoted quite a few, but all new attachments really jumps the total at the end. So thinking of just sticking with the front end loader, maybe grapple bucket, and post hole digger (looking at the hydraulic front mount option) to start. Leave the bush hog, pallet forks, blade, and such for down the road and possibly from the used market to save some money.

Things i am thinking that i want to make sure the tractor absolutely has up front are 3rd function and dual rear remotes. Anything else? also someone mentioned to make sure it has a live pto. Not sure what that means?

I owned an MX6000HST for a year and have owned and MX6000HSTC for three years. The cab is way better for just about every scenario with the exception of not being able to park it in a garage with a 7ft high door, or even 8ft for that matter, and of course working under trees with low branches.

The argument that a cab is more complex and has more features to fail might be technically true, but those features which are found in every new car and truck seem to work fine for decades. I'm talking about HVAC, audio, lights and switches. I decided not to worry about what might happen, but instead focused on the factual advantages that a cab offers.

A cab negates all of the negatives of heat, humidity, cold, wind, rain, snow, dust, smoke, bugs and noise. You will use a cabbed tractor more than an open station if you have to deal with a range of conditions.

I have a gear drive and HST tractor and there are upsides to both, and downsides to both, but hydraulic shuttle makes a gear drive a lot easier to live with. As for hp requirements, more is better in my world since it provides flexibility. Once you add liquid ballast, wheel weights, implements and an operator, that available hp climbing a hill or doing other work gets used up pretty quickly.

If you bought an L6060 or MX6000 or similar, I doubt that you'd outgrow the tractor, or find that you can't work hard or fast enough. An entry level M model would be a big step up but you'd have no HST option but a lot more capable tractor.

 

[PoTreeBoy]

Things i am thinking that i want to make sure the tractor absolutely has up front are 3rd function and dual rear remotes. Anything else? also someone mentioned to make sure it has a live pto. Not sure what that means?

Make sure you get the SSQA on the loader, otherwise the third function is useless. It may be standard on MXs, I don't know. Any HST has independent-type PTO, it lets you start the PTO spinning before the tractor moves.