This has probably been discussed before, but I have yet to find a good way to anchor my tractor to my trailer and have the "four corners with X pattern" configuration. See the attached photos. I used two chains and two ratchet binders to anchor it down. The front through the pipe on the front end loader and the rear through a clevis hook. It's anchored securely but I couldn't find any locations to meet the "four corners with X pattern" configuration. It would be nice if the Kubota design engineers would put anchor hooks or something on the four corners. Any suggestions?
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dotcop690
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Minimum of 2 tie downs and the tie down have to be rated for 1/2 of WLL. (If tractor and implements are 5,000 lbs then your tie downs must be rated for min. 3,500 lbs.)
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You are not making an "X". The way you have tied down still allows sideways motion.
All you need to do is use the same points, but cross over the chains at the ends to the opposite sides. This forms an "X" across the device/attachment and prevents sideways motion as well as forward/backwards.
Not to say this is the best way (or the legal way), but you definitely need the "X" pattern across both the front and back chains.
All you need to do is use the same points, but cross over the chains at the ends to the opposite sides. This forms an "X" across the device/attachment and prevents sideways motion as well as forward/backwards.
Not to say this is the best way (or the legal way), but you definitely need the "X" pattern across both the front and back chains.
The tractor and implement is probably around 5000 lbs. Each chain has a WLL of 4700 lbs. and the binders have a WLL of 5400 lbs. each. So using the lower 4700 lbs. x 2 chains divided by 2 (2 times load) is 4700 lbs. which is less than the load of 5000 lbs. This would mean this is not a legal tie down. Correct?
Here is a slide show from Iowa.
http://www.slideshare.net/I74Project/ag-outreach-farm-program-2011-load-securement
Bruce
http://www.slideshare.net/I74Project/ag-outreach-farm-program-2011-load-securement
Bruce
dotcop690
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If the machine is 5,000 lbs. your tie downs must meet or exceed 2,500 lbs. between the 2 tie downs.
Yes you go with the weaker WLL on tie downs. If chain and hook is rated for 5,000 lbs and the binder is 5,400 lbs that assembly is only worth 5,000 lbs. so you would have 10,000 lbs of securement on that machine with 2 tie downs. You would be more than covered.
I'm a DOT Trooper in my state. I deal with this load securement everyday. If you look up 49 CFR 393.130. That is for machinery that weighs more than 10,000 lbs. but it also says you can revert to 393.128 which is securement for vehicles less than 10,000 lbs. and that would only require 2 tie downs.
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This is how I move mine. It doesn't move an inch. No use in binding the bucket down. If the tractor doesn't go anywhere, neither will the bucket.
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Legally you HAVE to bind down any attachments regardless of if you think it can move or not.
You can get in trouble for too little of tie down, but you won't get in trouble for too much. Straps/chains can come loose, or break. Having the bare minimum puts a lot of people in danger, and could end with a law suit.
Spend the extra money, and time, and tie it down good. Drive a ways,like a mile or two, stop, and check your load. A little extra time, but worth it.
Spend the extra money, and time, and tie it down good. Drive a ways,like a mile or two, stop, and check your load. A little extra time, but worth it.
Maybe where you live. Can you tell me, the last time you saw heavy equipment moved on a lowboy, on an excavator, was the bucket chained down? On a backhoe, was the bucket chained down? On a dozer, was the blade chained down? I don't think so.
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dotcop690
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Dot rules are the same for US, Canada, & Mexico. Each state could have more rules or less rules.
Just remember if you are working in commerce and the combined GVWR exceed 10,000 lbs. you will fall in DOT rulings.
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You will get wrote up in Alabama for not tying a rear backhoe bucket tied down.
If it moves it must be tied down. They have let us by with a trailer with high rails around it.
I have been told, that if the big African/American woman stops you and you give her chocolate chip cookies, she will show leniency. I can not confirm this. It is what the drivers say.
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Sorry JustJeff, I have to agree with groomerbuck, it's a requirement that any implement, including blades and buckets, Including those attached to the backhoe, loader and / or tractor be secured to the trailer.
Now the chances of you getting busted with a little BX not properly tied down are probably slim, but do you want to chance it?
I know the ticket for unsecured load is pretty steep, far more than another strap or chain.
Okay guys, I'll throw the white towel in. Apparently I've been moving my little buddy illegally. But I sure could have sworn I see heavy equipment being moved the same way every day. Maybe I'm wrong on that too. I don't know.
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Sorry JustJeff, I have to agree with groomerbuck, it's a requirement that any implement, including blades and buckets, Including those attached to the backhoe, loader and / or tractor be secured to the trailer.
Now the chances of you getting busted with a little BX not properly tied down are probably slim, but do you want to chance it?
I know the ticket for unsecured load is pretty steep, far more than another strap or chain.
This is out of the DOT book.
§ 393.130 What are the rules for securing heavy vehicles, equipment and machinery?
(a)Applicability. The rules in this section apply to the transportation of heavy vehicles, equipment and machinery which operate on wheels or tracks, such as front end loaders, bulldozers, tractors, and power shovels and which individually weigh 4,536 kg (10,000 lb.) or more. Vehicles, equipment and machinery which is lighter than 4,536 kg (10,000 lb.) may also be secured in accordance with the provisions of this section, with § 393.128, or in accordance with the provisions of §§ 393.100 through 393.114.
(b)Preparation of equipment being transported.
(1) Accessory equipment, such as hydraulic shovels, must be completely lowered and secured to the vehicle.
(2) Articulated vehicles shall be restrained in a manner that prevents articulation while in transit.
(c)Securement of heavy vehicles, equipment or machinery with crawler tracks or wheels.
(1) In addition to the requirements of paragraph (b) of this section, heavy equipment or machinery with crawler tracks or wheels must be restrained against movement in the lateral, forward, rearward, and vertical direction using a minimum of four tiedowns.
(2) Each of the tiedowns must be affixed as close as practicable to the front and rear of the vehicle, or mounting points on the vehicle that have been specifically designed for that purpose.
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