Air Conditioning Problems

cmorningstar01

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I wish I could afford a tractor with AC...I wouldn't buy a tractor with AC I just wish I could afford one.

Just a question but are tractors still using freon(R22) or have they switched over to R234
 

SidecarFlip

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The old 'Freon' is outlawed and a hazardous substance. The new refrigerant is not Freon at all. Freon is a DuPont trade name anyway.
 

kubotafreak

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Well going to leave the AC till spring. The AC seems to work for short time then cuts out. I checked and seems to have enough freon using pressure gauges. Is there an inline screen in the system it seems like as if it run for short time and shuts down almost like a blockage. This tractor only has 600 hours and never had AC apart but could happen. May have to take it into dealer as to recharge will have to go there as in Canada have to have special licence to buy freon plus have to buy 30lb bottle. Thanks to all for your responses.
Being this is a tractor, and in very dirty environments you my want to check the evaporator. This is the part in the cab airbox. If everything else is fine, pressures, clutch, then the evap may be freezing up. Does the airflow out of the vents decrease as the cool air goes away? Evap fins will get covered in mud(evap is usually wet with moisture) and clog.
 

kubotafreak

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I don't think they used R22, it was R12. The new most popular ozone friendly freon is R134a.
Get ready for r1234. It is the new high $ replacement, that is both greenhouse/ozone friendly.
I would stock up on 134a from Atwoods/wallyworld, it will be gone soon. Lic. is already required in the states for more than 2lb bulk.
 

lugbolt

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i assume you are talking about the tractor in your sig (B2650HSDC)

if that is the case, the evaporator has a temp probe that turns the compressor off if the evap temp drops below freezing. I have had to replace a few of those. Not much fun, but normally solves the problem--and you don't have to open the system for anything in order to replace the sensor

here is where people get into a pickle, by asking on a forum wher 'everyone' knows a/c systems (and only about 25% of them really do)

you're being told to check and/or replace parts that may not be needed; u need to isolate the cut-and-dried cause before you replace or service a single part. Adding a can or two is the wrong way to do it, you could potentially end up with an overcharge situation and never know it other than the system wont' cool when you need it to cool (like in the summer time

there is always a reason that a/c systems need repair. When I did dealer work, when I got a repair order, it usually said "a/c not working" and nothing more. So first thing to do is get a background. Call the customer personally and ask them the details. Did it just stop? slowly stop working over time? Any noises? Anyone add a can? Anyone else serviced it? Lots of times, even then I never got the whole story. And lots of times I found out that someone had been playing with it and it was over or under charged, compressor shot, air/moisture in it, even had a couple instances where the wrong refrigerant was used by inexperienced and untrained "techs" (and some of them were at other dealers). 99% of the time the condenser was plugged up or the belt was slipping but the ones that were not? Better get the whole story before even starting the engine, that or waste a bunch of time and money.
 
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